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[hunterkiller]

Did anyone notice how the UFC skewed Serra's MMA record to make it look impressive. Serra is 9-5 in his MMA career, not 16-5 as they suggested. He's 7-5 in his UFC career. I believe the UFC was using his BJJ submission matches and some grappling stuff as MMA records. If you could use that stuff, then Kimbo could use his street fights, and Couture and Lesnar could use their wrestling competitions. MMA is MIXED Martial Arts. Competitions focusing on one skill are not counted on your mixed martial arts record.

Serra will lose to Hughes, then maybe another Top 15 guy before the UFC fades him onto the prelims. Then him and Pete Sell can go do Encino Man 2 and fade into obscurity. Just talking about Serra pisses me off. I hope Matt Hughes wipes his ass with Serra and then steals his pot of gold. For a look at Matt "The Terra-ble" Serra's career records, try this link:

Matt Serra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[jkilla374]

Originally Posted by jokerthief

For me it's a backlash to the over hype he's gotten in the last year by a few posters. Some people were making him out to be both the BJ Penn and Anderson Silva of the WW division -- vastly overestimating both his BJJ and striking. It was a nice win over GSP that he got last year but one win, especially a quick one, doesn't mean much. The reality was that Serra was very much an enigma last year. He had a history of losing tough fights to good/great fighters and had one decisive victory over a great fighter. One great win and a few decent losses (meaning they were close fights) doesn't give much information about a fighter.

I still think Serra is an enigma despite the convincing loss to GSP. A loss against a fighter the caliber of GSP doesn't mean much. Serra may be top 5 in the UFC or he may not even be top ten. I think a fight with Hughes will do much to clarify Serra's status.

I agree somewhat. Serra really hasn't fought any "cans," and he has some close loses to people that were very good fighters at the time.

however, I don't think the Hughes fight will show where either man stands. If Serra wins, everyone will claim that Hughes is simply over the hill, and we still won't know where Serra stands. If Hughes comes in game and takes a win without a finish, then Serra lost another close fight to a living mma legend, and we still won't know where he stands.

I would like to see Hughes v. Serra, then, regardless of who wins that fight, see Karo v. Serra II. I think a Serra v. Karo fight would tell us a lot.

[Wolverine77]

Being from NY any other time Im routing for Serra b/c he is an exciting fighter, but I always go for GSP and he gave Serra a beating on Saturday thats for sure.

[Transworld]

Serra has been very strong in early rounds of his fights. But I think Hughes cardio is a lot better than Serra's, and that will make the difference in this fight. Serra seems to fade in the later rounds. If they had to fight for the belt in the 5 round match, Hughes would definitely win. Obviously it is going to be a 3 round fight, but I still pick Hughes to win.

[grhunt]

I dont know how a lot of you guys say Serra will go away. Since being on TUF then coming back as a coach the UFC has invested a lot of money in the guy there is no way there are going to throw him to the curb even if he loses to hughes. Serra is a guy that everyone loves to hate and the UFC needs guys like that because the casual fan will always want to see a guy like him get beat up. Serra has all the tools to stick around in the WW division but if he loses to hughes i can see him going back down to 155

[bomber428]

Originally Posted by grhunt

if he loses to hughes i can see him going back down to 155

That's the part that I think most people are forgetting... he's a natural 155. UFC didn't have a LW division until recently, and TUF was for WW's when he won a shot at the title. Had he lost to GSP the first time, I think he would have immediately dropped down to LW. He would be a very big guy at 155 instead of a small 170.

I'm no Serra fanboy - I think Hughes would beat him if he comes in ready to fight - but I do believe that Serra could be a force at LW. He doesn't have the skills of a BJ Penn, but he'd be really powerful at that weight.

[Dr. MMA]

Originally Posted by bomber428

That's the part that I think most people are forgetting... he's a natural 155. UFC didn't have a LW division until recently, and TUF was for WW's when he won a shot at the title. Had he lost to GSP the first time, I think he would have immediately dropped down to LW. He would be a very big guy at 155 instead of a small 170.

UFC had a lw division for a long ass time! Serra was even in the tournament fighting for the lw title. The title was in limbo for a while but at that time he wasn't very active in the mma scene after a period of time. He obviously got much bigger during that period and then he moved to ww.

Right now, you can't even consider him a natural lw, he's quite a stalky guy and he need to loses a lot of that mass to cut down to lw. Back when he was a lw, he was walking around at 165-170... now he walks around 190... in december he was 200

[bomber428]

Originally Posted by Dr. MMA

UFC had a lw division for a long ass time! Serra was even in the tournament fighting for the lw title. The title was in limbo for a while but at that time he wasn't very active in the mma scene after a period of time. He obviously got much bigger during that period and then he moved to ww.

Right now, you can't even consider him a natural lw, he's quite a stalky guy and he need to loses a lot of that mass to cut down to lw. Back when he was a lw, he was walking around at 165-170... now he walks around 190... in december he was 200

Sorry, shouldn't have said 'didn't have' a LW division... I should have said they didn't bring it back until Serra had already signed on to do TUF 4. When the LW division was dropped from '04-'06, he had to move to WW.

He's definitely gotten much bigger, but he could probably get back down to 155. He'd have to lose some muscle mass, but I think he will need drop to LW if he wants to be a serious contender.