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[Splandman]

Originally Posted by thecoylewis

I want to see all of the Tito haters out there challenge him to a fight.

What a retarded comment. Sounds like someone quoting an eight year old.

My favorite fighter can beat up your favorite fighter.

[hunterkiller]

You know something I don't understand, everyone on here has the right to post what they want. Someone says something that someone else doesn't like and it's fair game. If I defend a fighter that I like, I get neg'd for it. If I defend a fighter i like, I get criticized for it. If I say something negative towards someone else, I get neg'd for it. Is there any middle ground that I'm not aware of.

[Splandman]

Originally Posted by thecoylewis

You know something I don't understand, everyone on here has the right to post what they want. Someone says something that someone else doesn't like and it's fair game. If I defend a fighter that I like, I get neg'd for it. If I defend a fighter i like, I get criticized for it. If I say something negative towards someone else, I get neg'd for it. Is there any middle ground that I'm not aware of.

Did I neg you? No. I said that your comment about people fighting Tito was childish and stupid. To suggest that people should not say anything bad about Tito unless they are willing to fight him is sophomoric at best.

[hunterkiller]

Originally Posted by Splandman

Did I neg you? No. I said that your comment about people fighting Tito was childish and stupid. To suggest that people should not say anything bad about Tito unless they are willing to fight him is sophomoric at best.

No you were the one that criticized me, someone else neg'd me.

And my point was there is an unwritten rule on here about fighter bashing. I've been neg'd for it. My point was to all the people who call him a bum, and that he can't fight anymore, then if you think you can do better, then why not. It may be childish but it's my right to say what I want. It wasn't offensive to anyone. I try not to go behind people and call their posts idiotic, or childish even when I disagree with them. I may say why I disagree, by I try not to name call.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by thecoylewis

No you were the one that criticized me, someone else neg'd me.

And my point was there is an unwritten rule on here about fighter bashing. I've been neg'd for it. My point was to all the people who call him a bum, and that he can't fight anymore, then if you think you can do better, then why not. It may be childish but it's my right to say what I want. It wasn't offensive to anyone. I try not to go behind people and call their posts idiotic, or childish even when I disagree with them. I may say why I disagree, by I try not to name call.

You get criticized for statements like this because they are pointless. There is no logic in a statement like "You shouldn't talk bad about Tito because he is a better fighter than you".

It is a logical fallacy that implies that only fighters are capable of analyzing a fighters current talent level.

We are not professional fighters but that does not mean that we are incapable of discussing mma. Otherwise noone on this forum would be allowed to say anything about any fighter.

[hunterkiller]

I agree and understand that. It just frustrates me that I say something negative about someone else and get neg'd for it and it's the exact same thing. Point taken. Thanks, could have done without the neg though.

[smoogy]

From Iole's mailbag:

TITO-DANA FEUD

I know that Dana (White) and Tito Ortiz have had an ongoing personal conflict for awhile. Did this bad blood start prior to Tito being a coach on “The Ultimate Fighter” or during the show itself? I understand that Tito has lost some of the “spark” in his fight game, but I personally think it’s a loss for UFC if he goes to a competitor. Your thoughts?

Joe Moreno
El Paso, Texas

The feud goes back well before TUF was created, though, frankly, I don’t get it. White did say last week he’d like to sign Ortiz to a new contract extension, but then he proceeded to rip into him, as he usually does. On the countdown show that will air before UFC 84, Ortiz says that after he defeats Lyoto Machida (which I highly doubt he’ll do), he’s going to go to the cage and shout thanks to UFC owners Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta for all they’ve done for him. Then, he said, he’s going to look at White and say, “Dana, (expletive) you!”

One of the reasons Ortiz was such a dominant fighter was that he had terrific takedowns and his cardio was first-rate. He had a back injury that has hurt his takedowns and his cardio isn’t near what it was at his peak. So now, he’s not nearly as good of a fighter as he once was. Both White and Ortiz are acting idiotic in this scenario. A healthy, motivated Ortiz is huge for the UFC. The UFC gives Ortiz the biggest stage to operate from. It would seem to me they each need each other and ought to stop with the childish name-calling and come to a resolution.

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