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[Greenish]

harlemhustla145 man, it was you who started with "Point is Wand has beaten some very good fighters that I don't think Chuck can beat.", was it not?

I find it hypocritical that you first make a point of it and then all of the sudden condemn that line of though?!


Afro Samurai 1. see above 2. Wandy has lost to top LHW only an year ago and I consider it a big blemish on his record. Wheater pride decided that title should or should not be on line is irrelavant IMO.

[daruckus]

this is bs. why even start a thread like this when youre just gonna get a bunch of opinions. who the hell knows who'd win in a fight between chuck and silva, they havent fought and that fight looks like it wont happen any time soon

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by Greenish

harlemhustla145 man, it was you who started with "Point is Wand has beaten some very good fighters that I don't think Chuck can beat.", was it not?

I find it hypocritical that you first make a point of it and then all of the sudden condemn that line of though?!


Afro Samurai 1. see above 2. Wandy has lost to top LHW only an year ago and I consider it a big blemish on his record. Wheater pride decided that title should or should not be on line is irrelavant IMO.

First of all, yes I did say "Point is Wand has beaten some very good fighters that I don't think Chuck can beat." but that opinion has nothing to do with facts. I just said that to counter the biased opinions of others. I think GSP can beat Hughes in a rematch but I don't think he shoud be ranked above him. The only think I'm saying is that when you deal with ranking you have to facts and records. That's the only way you can fairly say someone can more than likely beat the other. Opinions are not valid. Even mines!!

Besides Arona, who Wand avenged. What other LHW beat Wand?

[mitchpmma]

And get over the Rampage-Chuck fight it happend 3 years ago and its annoying to hear it over and over again.

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by mitchpmma

And get over the Rampage-Chuck fight it happend 3 years ago and its annoying to hear it over and over again.

Well I'm sorry to annoy you. Do you have a better ranking system to judge fairly who is the better fighter? BTW 3 years ago is not that long ago.

[Greenish]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

First of all, yes I did say "Point is Wand has beaten some very good fighters that I don't think Chuck can beat." but that opinion has nothing to do with facts. I just said that to counter the biased opinions of others. I think GSP can beat Hughes in a rematch but I don't think he shoud be ranked above him. The only think I'm saying is that when you deal with ranking you have to facts and records. That's the only way you can fairly say someone can more than likely beat the other. Opinions are not valid. Even mines!!

Besides Arona, who Wand avenged. What other LHW beat Wand?

uh uh...I not sure how to respond to someone who says that his own opinions have nothing to do with facts...I think I'll just let you get the last word, because that's what you really want, right?

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by Greenish

uh uh...I not sure how to respond to someone who says that his own opinions have nothing to do with facts...I think I'll just let you get the last word, because that's what you really want, right?

Lol. I'm just showing you that my biased opinions don't matter when it comes to ranking fighters. I'm not really asking for the last word. I'll let you deside if I won this argument. yeh me!!!!!!!!!!!

[alfin]

everyone who watches mma knows nothing is definite until the last bell hit or tapout if wand wants fight so bad why is he not using the media to ask and put pressure on both orgs to make fight

[Afro]

Originally Posted by alfin

everyone who watches mma knows nothing is definite until the last bell hit or tapout if wand wants fight so bad why is he not using the media to ask and put pressure on both orgs to make fight

he already did that..

Originally Posted by mitchpmma

And get over the Rampage-Chuck fight it happend 3 years ago and its annoying to hear it over and over again.

3 years is not that long ago, im startin to wonder is MMA the first prize fighting that y'all have started to watch? cuz this "3 years ago" crap has never flied in prize fighting. Fighters move up the ranks, they reach there prime but loses that happened while ur makin ur way up through the amatuer levels dont matter when ur in ur prime, every loss that happens while ur in ur prime matters and Chuck lost to Rampage in his prime

Notice that Harlem is not mentioning Chucks first loss to Horn? why is this? cuz Chuck was an amatuer when it happened! just like how Wandy was an amatuer when he got his first 3 losses, the only loses that count were to Cro-cop, Arona, and Hunt in his prime

just like Chucks loses to Couture, and Rampage count.


And why is Rampage brought up so much? because hes the only fighter that Chuck and Wandy have both fought, and Wandy beat him decievely.. Chuck got dominated. MMA math usually doesnt work but both Wandy and Chuck are standup fighters and they both fought a wrestler so in this case it does work.

[dalandlou]

Originally Posted by daruckus

this is bs. why even start a thread like this when youre just gonna get a bunch of opinions. who the hell knows who'd win in a fight between chuck and silva, they havent fought and that fight looks like it wont happen any time soon

YES. Taking the words STRAIGHT out of my mouth. You may just be a genius. Possibly a God?

Oh, and who cares what others think about Wand, Chuck, or any other fighter for that matter? I could think that Sherk could take Wandy. It holds just as much water.