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09-27-2006, 06:48 AM
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|  How can most people rank Chuck over Wand?
What is the reasoning behind this? Favoritism? Because Chuck did lose to Rampage and Wand beat Rampage. On paper doesn't that mean Wand is the best LHW/MW fighter is the world?
How the hell did Chuck become ranked higher than Wand? They've never fought, Wand beat the man who destroyed Chuck, and Wand has only lost once in the past 4 years at MW.
The CroCop fight shouldn't even matter where rankings is concerned because CroCop was a natural HW and that was a Non Title fight.
Where is the reasoning people? How is this fair?
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09-27-2006, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by harlemhustla145 What is the reasoning behind this? Favoritism? Because Chuck did lose to Rampage and Wand beat Rampage. On paper doesn't that mean Wand is the best LHW/MW fighter is the world?
How the hell did Chuck become ranked higher than Wand? They've never fought, Wand beat the man who destroyed Chuck, and Wand has only lost once in the past 4 years at MW.
The CroCop fight shouldn't even matter where rankings is concerned because CroCop was a natural HW and that was a Non Title fight.
Where is the reasoning people? How is this fair? | Ok, to use your insane logic.......Tito beat Silva, and Chuck destroyed Tito...so therefore Chuck is better than Silva............see how it works?? It doesn't!!
But anyways....................let the fighting and bashing begin.
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09-27-2006, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kickass32 Ok, to use your insane logic.......Tito beat Silva, and Chuck destroyed Tito...so therefore Chuck is better than Silva............see how it works?? It doesn't!!
But anyways....................let the fighting and bashing begin. | did you EVER watch boxing? the Tito loss was on his way up, did Chuck lose to rampage when he was on his way up?
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09-27-2006, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by harlemhustla145 ...Chuck did lose to Rampage and Wand beat Rampage. On paper doesn't that mean Wand is the best LHW/MW fighter is the world?... | No it doesn't. Comparing common opponents says very litle because styles make fights. To say that Wandy is better than Chuck because how they fared against Rampage is IMO stupid.
With that said I personally rank Chuck higher because he has had a number of convincing wins over top LHWs (Babalu, 2x Conture, Tito) in past 3 years while Wandy's only noticable fights were 2 wins over Quinton and 1-1 with Arona.
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09-27-2006, 07:08 AM
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It doesn't matter, to use the insane logic of this guy beat that guy, so he can beat the other guy....thats just plain dumb.
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09-27-2006, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Greenish No it doesn't. Comparing common opponents says very litle because styles make fights. To say that Wandy is better than Chuck because how they fared against Rampage is IMO stupid.
With that said I personally rank Chuck higher because he has had a number of convincing wins over HQ LHW opponents(Babalu, 2x Conture, Tito) in past 3 years while Wandy's only noticable fights were 2 wins over Quinton and 1-1 with Arona. | Wand also beat Fujita, Sakuraba, and Nakamura as well..
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09-27-2006, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai Wand also beat Fujita, Sakuraba, and Nakamura as well.. | Yea, and Chuck beat Horn and White too, but I was only looking at top lightheavies.
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09-27-2006, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Greenish Yea, and Chuck beat Horn and White too, but I was only looking at top lightheavies. | Horn and White arent in the same league as Fujita, Nakamura, and Sakuraba
but even if were just lookin at LHWs you still got Nakamura and Sakuraba both are/were Top 10 when Wandy beat them. I think the difference maker is that Wandy has gone on win streaks and been champ for much longer, he goes up against tougher competition as well so I dont see how he can be ranked under Chuck until Chuck beats him.
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09-27-2006, 07:20 AM
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IF YOU DON'T USE THE INSANE LOGIC OF "I BEAT THIS GUY WHO BEAT THAT GUY" THAN HOW THE HELL DO YOU THINK KICKBOXING,BOXING, AND DANA WHITE CHOOSES THEIR #1 CONTENDER???? You think he just picks his favorite fighter? lol
How would ya'll feel, if you were undefeated in your division and you were ranked lower then some dude who lost before he got a chance to fight you in a tourniment? I would be pissed. Point is Wand has beaten some very good fighters that I don't think Chuck can beat. Saku would have gave Chuck all he could handle.
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09-27-2006, 07:21 AM
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Chuck actually defends HIS title
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