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09-29-2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBanda Bro those are all high ranked LHW's!!! I dont see why you're even knockin Couture... the man was on top and then lost to Chuck. Babalou for sure could of given Chuck a harder time last time but he was careless. Hell this may be old but didnt Bablou hang in there with Fedor? ... umm yeah. I could go on if need be and even on some others you didnt mention. Give Chuck some credit. Only LHW's that have what it takes to beat Chuck are Silva and Shogun as far as I see it. | yeah you cant say randy wasnt the man..was he the most exciting maybe not...but he was a great fighter..and right after his loss he took out van arsdale..then he came right back and fought chuck again..sometimes you just run into a guy that you cant beat..shit if chuck had left and went to pride after his loss to randy..randy might still be the champ..and horn is a stud you gotta love horn..
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09-29-2006, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by j.farrell yeah you cant say randy wasnt the man..was he the most exciting maybe not...but he was a great fighter..and right after his loss he took out van arsdale..then he came right back and fought chuck again..sometimes you just run into a guy that you cant beat..shit if chuck had left and went to pride after his loss to randy..randy might still be the champ..and horn is a stud you gotta love horn.. | and babalou just fought a stupid fight..i dont thinkhe would win if they fought again..but i think he would put up a better fight..i dont care about vernon white tho..but he still isnt a bad fighter
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09-29-2006, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai LINDLAND IS AN OK FIGHTER? wtf are you talkin about? your gonna sit there and call Vernon White a Top LHW but tell me an olympic wrestler is just an OK fighter? your clueless bro, Rampage is a wrestler and he went up against an olympic wrestler he wasnt suppose to run through him! he did wat he was suppose to do and thats outwrestle Mat Lindland, who isnt a bad striker either! if you think Lindland is an "ok" fighter then I dunno what to tell you | YOU PRAISE RAMPAGE FOR BARELY BEATING A NATURAL MW, BUT BASH CHUCK CAUSE HE FOUGHT JEREMY HORN... I DONT GET IT???
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09-29-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CHUCKtheCHAMP YOU PRAISE RAMPAGE FOR BARELY BEATING A NATURAL MW, BUT BASH CHUCK CAUSE HE FOUGHT JEREMY HORN... I DONT GET IT??? | im not bashing Chuck cause he fought Horn im saying Horn wasnt gonna win that fight
and read what I said, Rampage vs Lindland is a more even matchup then Chuck vs Horn anyways! Lindland is better then Horn and its wrestler vs wrestler.
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09-29-2006, 03:30 PM
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people are saying that Rampage was kind of out of it after the Wandy fight, becoming christian, etc.
that hasnt changed his performance from what i saw. wandy had a war with him, then he beat ninja. then Shogun manhandled him. but that was Shogun's year, right after that he handled Arona in the finals. he went to a decision against two other guys, one of them had chin, the other was Matt Lindland
going to a close decision with Lindland is nothing. Lindland is a completely different fighter from the Lay n Pray master we all saw just a few years ago. hes put more effort into finishing his fights, and cleaned up his standup as well as his ground and pound.
hes ranked the number 2 MW in the world, and i can guaruntee he would be on the top 10 if we saw him fight some cats other then Rampage at 205.
he went to decision with Busta too, just a few years ago. thats a cat a lot smaller then him, but with the JJ equivalent of Lindland's wrestling skills
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09-29-2006, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai im not bashing Chuck cause he fought Horn im saying Horn wasnt gonna win that fight
and read what I said, Rampage vs Lindland is a more even matchup then Chuck vs Horn anyways! Lindland is better then Horn and its wrestler vs wrestler. | HOW IS IT MORE OF A MATCH UP, HORN BEAT CHUCK BEFORE THAT IN ITS SELF MAKES FOR MORE OF A MATCH UP.
BUT ALL IM SAYING IS YOU CANT BASH CHUCK FOR FIGHTING A NATURAL MW AND PRAISE RAMPAGE FOR BARELY BEATING A NATURAL MW...
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09-29-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CHUCKtheCHAMP HOW IS IT MORE OF A MATCH UP, HORN BEAT CHUCK BEFORE THAT IN ITS SELF MAKES FOR MORE OF A MATCH UP.
BUT ALL IM SAYING IS YOU CANT BASH CHUCK FOR FIGHTING A NATURAL MW AND PRAISE RAMPAGE FOR BARELY BEATING A NATURAL MW... | Horn beat chuck when Chuck was movin up, that fight happened WELLLLL before Chuck his his prime
and all im saying is IM NOT FUCKING BASHING CHUCK KI said that Horn is a dangerous fighter to Chuck and I disagree, tell me why Horn is dangerous and dont say he beat him before because Chuck was NOT in his prime when it happened.
you praise Chucks Takedown D so much but a guy with average standup and bad wrestling comes along and alla sudden hes dangerous to Chuck? come on now..
And for the record if I was bashing Chuck for fighting Horn and praising Rampage for beating him then I would still be justified to do so cuz Lindland is better then Jeremy Horn and an olympic wrestler, Lindland is much more of a threat to Rampages record then Horn is to Chuck but like I said before im not bashing Chuck.
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09-29-2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai Horn beat chuck when Chuck was movin up, that fight happened WELLLLL before Chuck his his prime
and all im saying is IM NOT FUCKING BASHING CHUCK KI said that Horn is a dangerous fighter to Chuck and I disagree, tell me why Horn is dangerous and dont say he beat him before because Chuck was NOT in his prime when it happened.
you praise Chucks Takedown D so much but a guy with average standup and bad wrestling comes along and alla sudden hes dangerous to Chuck? come on now..
And for the record if I was bashing Chuck for fighting Horn and praising Rampage for beating him then I would still be justified to do so cuz Lindland is better then Jeremy Horn and an olympic wrestler, Lindland is much more of a threat to Rampages record then Horn is to Chuck but like I said before im not bashing Chuck. | I NEVER SAID HORN WAS DANGEROUS TO CHUCK AND I NEVER SAID HORN WAS BETTER THAN LINLAND,
ALL IM SAYING IS HOW CAN YOU SAY RAMPAGE IS ON HIS WAY BACK UP AFTER ALMOST LOOSING A FIGHT TO A NATURAL MW, BUT WHEN CHUCK FIGHTS A NATURAL MW YOU SAY HES NOT FIGHTING REAL CONTENDERS..IF THAT WAS THE LOGIC THEN RAMPAGE SHOUDL HAVE SMASHED THROUGH LINLAND WHCIH HE DIDNT AAND CHUCK SHOUDL HAVE SMASHED THOUGH HORN WHICH HE DID!!
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09-29-2006, 04:01 PM
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im lost now..you guys lost me with all the comparisons..
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09-29-2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CHUCKtheCHAMP I NEVER SAID HORN WAS DANGEROUS TO CHUCK AND I NEVER SAID HORN WAS BETTER THAN LINLAND,
ALL IM SAYING IS HOW CAN YOU SAY RAMPAGE IS ON HIS WAY BACK UP AFTER ALMOST LOOSING A FIGHT TO A NATURAL MW, BUT WHEN CHUCK FIGHTS A NATURAL MW YOU SAY HES NOT FIGHTING REAL CONTENDERS..IF THAT WAS THE LOGIC THEN RAMPAGE SHOUDL HAVE SMASHED THROUGH LINLAND WHCIH HE DIDNT AAND CHUCK SHOUDL HAVE SMASHED THOUGH HORN WHICH HE DID!! | i dont know if you can say chuck smashed through horn tho..jeremy has given him his best fight since chuck has been on fire...he almost took him the distance
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