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09-30-2006, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua I like most of the Rankings except that Sudo isn't a top 10 LW and Baroni isn't a top 10 MW. I like Sudo and I'm a big fan of his, but he hasn't beaten anyone really noteworthy in awhile. He's more of a fan favorite than anything.
Baroni is just not top 10 material whatsoever. He has a 9-7 overall record and has lost 2 out of his last 3.
Norfumi Yamamoto is a top 10 LW but it's hard for me to see him as a #1. His biggest wins are against Sudo and Uno and those 2 are borderline top 10. I'd keep Gomi at #1 because he's fought better competition over the last few years and still has a very impressive record. | Sudo should definently be a Top 10 LW, that Kid loss was crap
Kid should definently be #1 if he didnt retire, he could very well be the best MMA fighter ever if he kept fighting but hes gone to the olympics now
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09-30-2006, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai Sudo should definently be a Top 10 LW, that Kid loss was crap
Kid should definently be #1 if he didnt retire, he could very well be the best MMA fighter ever if he kept fighting but hes gone to the olympics now | like I said, I'm a Sudo fan, but who has he fought lately besides Kid? Ole Laursen, Miyata, Dekker, Takaya? not exactly top guys. He's an entertaining fighter but he isn't beating any top competition lately.
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09-30-2006, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua like I said, I'm a Sudo fan, but who has he fought lately besides Kid? Ole Laursen, Miyata, Dekker, Takaya? not exactly top guys. He's an entertaining fighter but he isn't beating any top competition lately. | neither has Hermes Who else you gonna put in the Top 10??
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09-30-2006, 05:33 PM
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Hermes is a great exciting fighter ,but there's more deserving fighters for top ten in LW,Tito Ortiz is too high,and there's no way in hell Rich Franklin is the second best p4p fighter.Are you high?
I may not agree with all of them ,but I'm thankful that atleast this time you actually did them.
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09-30-2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by killerinstinct Hermes is a great exciting fighter ,but there's more deserving fighters for top ten in LW,Tito Ortiz is too high,and there's no way in hell Rich Franklin is the second best p4p fighter.Are you high?
I may not agree with all of them ,but I'm thankful that atleast this time you actually did them. | Rich Franklin is undefeated in the UFC with only 1 loss on his record, how is he now the 2nd P4P fighter in MMA?
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09-30-2006, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai Rich Franklin is undefeated in the UFC with only 1 loss on his record, how is he now the 2nd P4P fighter in MMA? | p4p how can you rank him above,Chuck,Hughes,Mirko Cro Cop?
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09-30-2006, 05:43 PM
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I actuallly like rich in that spot. Think about it. He is well rounded. I have not seen a hole in his game other than a suspect chin but he has great recovery time. 30-1 is an awesome record and he fights all comers. He has beaten guys with better standup than he has and he has beaten guys with a better ground game than he has. The only other fighter that can really say that is Fedor.
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09-30-2006, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai neither has Hermes Who else you gonna put in the Top 10?? | Melendez (Obiya>>>all of Sudo's wins), Koutetsu Boku ( Beat Franca, Ryan Bow, and Pequeno is a better win than Sudo's win against Takaya), hell Uno even beat Laursen more convincingly and Black Mamba is tough competition, Hominick beat Yves who was top 10 at the time.
I don't know how Ishida is below Aurelio despite his thoroughly 1 sided domination against him.
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09-30-2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tkohonda Melendez (Obiya>>>all of Sudo's wins), Koutetsu Boku ( Beat Franca, Ryan Bow, and Pequeno is a better win than Sudo's win against Takaya), hell Uno even beat Laursen more convincingly and Black Mamba is tough competition, Hominick beat Yves who was top 10 at the time.
I don't know how Ishida is below Aurelio despite his thoroughly 1 sided domination against him. | well there we have it but please dont tell me u think Uno should outrank sudo lol
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09-30-2006, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai well there we have it but please dont tell me u think Uno should outrank sudo lol | I don't think Uno is better than Sudo but I think the argument could be made that his wins in the LW division could warrant him a higher ranking
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