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10-01-2006, 12:55 PM
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Tito is the most overrated fighter of all time besides Bob Sapp, he is fighting Shamrock again because he is the only fighter with a name that Ortiz can finish and not have to have the judges give him a win he didnt deserve (Griffin/Belfort) so he looks good before he gets fed to Liddell.
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10-01-2006, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by theDonTurtle Tito is the most overrated fighter of all time besides Bob Sapp, he is fighting Shamrock again because he is the only fighter with a name that Ortiz can finish and not have to have the judges give him a win he didnt deserve (Griffin/Belfort) so he looks good before he gets fed to Liddell. | go watch the Belfort and Forrest fights again...Tito won both and clearly beat Vitor. i love how people's hatred for fighters makes them sound so ignorant. im not a Matt Hughes fan but i give him all the credit in the world for being the top, dominant fighter that he is. i know we can all express our opinions here but damn...why don't you go start another "Tito SUX" thread or something LMAO
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10-01-2006, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ArMnHC go watch the Belfort and Forrest fights again...Tito won both and clearly beat Vitor. i love how people's hatred for fighters makes them sound so ignorant. im not a Matt Hughes fan but i give him all the credit in the world for being the top, dominant fighter that he is. i know we can all express our opinions here but damn...why don't you go start another "Tito SUX" thread or something LMAO  | He won the Belfort fight I'll give you that ,but he only one ,b/c belfort gassed.Before that Vitor was clearly winning.However there's no way in hell he won the Forrest fight.
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10-01-2006, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by killerinstinct He won the Belfort fight I'll give you that ,but he only one ,b/c belfort gassed.Before that Vitor was clearly winning.However there's no way in hell he won the Forrest fight. |
Yeah Belfort gassed but that is his fault. Never really liked using that for an excuse as to why someone lost a fight. If you gas and that causes you to lose then ohh well that is your fault for not coming better prepared. Cannot argue with you on the Griffin fight however. I am still on the fence about that one.
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10-01-2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thelegendrvb Yeah Belfort gassed but that is his fault. Never really liked using that for an excuse as to why someone lost a fight. If you gas and that causes you to lose then ohh well that is your fault for not coming better prepared. Cannot argue with you on the Griffin fight however. I am still on the fence about that one. | heck yeah it was his fault. if you are gunna fight Tito, then you better come with a full gas tank, otherwise he'll wear you out and pick you apart. Vitor was probably relying on his punching power to finish Tito...not good LOL
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10-01-2006, 02:03 PM
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If anything the Griffin fight should have been a draw, but I'm not so sure. That last takedown he had sealed the deal and gave him the W against Griffin.
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10-01-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by strife If anything the Griffin fight should have been a draw, but I'm not so sure. That last take down he had sealed the deal and gave him the W against Griffin. | I'd be fine with a draw.the first round could've been scored 10-8 for Tito ,but no way could it be scored a win for Tito.Forrest very clearly won rounds 2 and 3.I don't even know how that's debatable.
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10-01-2006, 02:15 PM
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I thought Tito- Griffin was a draw IMO. shoulda bee another round. Ortiz-Shamrock III definately for the money. Ken was dominated for both fights.
I don't see a reason for another. Again IMO
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10-01-2006, 03:30 PM
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Put your biased opinions about Tito aside, watch the fight again.........Tito wins Rd. 1.......10-8
Rd 2 is clearly won by Forrest 10-9, and if you watch round 3, again with putting your biased opinions aside, you'll see Tito clearly outstruck, and landed better and more shots than Forrest, plus he got the takedown..........10-9 Tito..........
29-27 Tito.......
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10-01-2006, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by fugitive I thought Tito- Griffin was a draw IMO. shoulda bee another round. Ortiz-Shamrock III definately for the money. Ken was dominated for both fights.
I don't see a reason for another. Again IMO | another round? it was a ppv, not a TUF episode.
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