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[Palma]

MMA is not about what businessman can make more money then another businessman… it’s about what fighter it the best in the world… I know for a fact that affliction would let Fedor fight Anderson Silva to see who has the best fighter, and I know for a fact that even if Silva weighed 250 pounds that Zuffa still wouldn’t risk the possibility of a loss against another org (especially in their first show). We as the most educated MMA fans on the internet have a duty to inform the passive fans that we know that a slipshod card produced for free on Spiketv can’t compare with the innovative design that Affliction has created; to air their prelims on live television so fans can decide it the main card is worth purchasing or not… let’s show Dana White that MMA fans control this sport and his bald egotistical dome!

So yes, I am not going to watch UFN 14 in any capacity. Not live, not on UFC unleashed, and not on the internet… the only way to prove this point is to pretend it doesn’t exist… I am not going to judge any hardcore or passive fan that watches it or likes it, but I myself have standards and integrity and I cannot bring myself to watch anything that was created purely to put someone else out of business… it is hard times in this country… and if people had standards and integrity we might not be dealing with $5 a gallon and no employment opportunities or the credit crisis… Jesus Christ… we have to draw the line somewhere, and I am drawing a line in the sand with sport I love!

I'm going to buy this Affliction card (and maybe a tee-shirt or two) and as much beer as I can afford, and I am going to throw the biggest MMA party I can just to support this org, that seems to be more into producing great fights then being the number one org. in the Country.

[puhalu]

More power to ya.

But I don't have that kind of resolve. I'll be watching UFN because I'm a cheap-ass mma junkie who'll take it any way he can get it.

[mattc25]

....it`s a win-win for mma fans imo.

[Quintessential Studmuffin]

Palma you've been the voice of reason here as of late,but I can't totally agree with you here..

Don't get me wrong,Afflictions putting on an incredible show top to bottom,and I'm 110% for it suceeding and will for sure be ordering. But at the same time,as an MMA fan,I just can't ignore a card with Anderson Silva,possibly Wanderlei Silva,and a crazy LW fight like Franca/Edgar. And the fact that it's totally free makes it all the more challenging to miss.

I'll order Affliction,watch it with whoever I can invite over and talk into watching it,and then come on here for downloads of UFN.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by Quintessential Studmuffin

Palma you've been the voice of reason here as of late,but I can't totally agree with you here..

Don't get me wrong,Afflictions putting on an incredible show top to bottom,and I'm 110% for it suceeding and will for sure be ordering. But at the same time,as an MMA fan,I just can't ignore a card with Anderson Silva,possibly Wanderlei Silva,and a crazy LW fight like Franca/Edgar. And the fact that it's totally free makes it all the more challenging to miss.

I'll order Affliction,watch it with whoever I can invite over and talk into watching it,and then come on here for downloads of UFN.

Like I said, I am not going to judge anyone for watching it... to me, it's just the simple point that this card wasn't created for your entertainment or to further the sport, rather to maintain the blatant monopoly that the UFC has over the North American MMA market... they really don't care about you as a fan or it would have existed before the Affliction event was announced... and that is what is sad to me.

I realize it is a really good free card... and in some way that makes it worse. Like the free gas tax or banks forgiving mortgageors hundreds of thousands of dollars... what do they really have to give up? something they could have given up a long time ago, but didn't because they didn't have to until now.

[STruC1x]

I'll order Affliction to watch it live, and DVR UFN14.

Competition is better!

[Palma]

Originally Posted by STruC1x

I'll order Affliction to watch it live, and DVR UFN14.

Competition is better!

Competition is better... as long as it exists... that is my point. Too bad, most MMA fans don't even know what Afflicition is... It was a nice a idea while it lasted...

[Ubermensch]

I think if the Company Affliction put this much effort to put up this card for us MMA fans we should repay their work and dedication to our sport by supporting them... First on the night of the fight. If one chooses to watch UFN after cool but you should help those who make the sport better IMO.

[mauladala]

To be honest, I think I understand where Palma is coming from. It only lends credence to bullying tactics to give the UFC ratings on a night that has been manufactured merely to hurt another mma company. While it's good for UFC biz, it's not necessarily the best for mma as a sport. The thing about boycotting is that it requires sacrifice that people nowadays do not want to make due to laziness, fear, and/or they just don't agree with the reasoning to what would amount to be a consumer strike.

Example: oil companies and rising gas prices. ONE way to hurt these companies and stop the rising prices is to not BUY their gas. This brings results two-fold (in the most basic way): 1) It helps create a surplus because oil is not being consumed. 2) Forces oil companies to lower prices due to extra supply, a lower demand, and a need to meet the customer's wishes. The reason that will never happen is because so many people feel they NEED their cars (for obvious reasons I won't go into) and they may or may not be too lazy to find alternate methods of transport, or just take a stand en masse though it might cost them their jobs. But if there were an oil/gas boycott for a week-just a week- the amount of money the oil and gas companies would lose and the extra surplus created could/would be very substantial.

The same thing can be applied to an mma company attempting to create a monopoly by riding over competitor's events. They did the same thing to PrideFC (New Year's Eve shows) they're doing now. Palma wants to take a stand against that by not watching the event in question. I applaud that. There's a lot of posters on this site who feel that promotional diversity is the key to help mma flourish, and that a move like this is somewhat dictatorial and the first step towards monopolizing the sport and becoming somewhat "authoritarian". What starts off as "good, tough business practice" can easily devolve into something more sinister and over-whelming. You can merely look at the evolution Dana's own mindset on mma. Where once he lauded the idea of cross-promotion and spoke highly of other companies and the idea of finding out "who the best fighter was", he now loathes it and degrades other promotions AND fighters.

http://forums.mmanews.com/general-mm...e-changed.html
No need to find a thread for things he says now I should think. lol

Unfortunately, there won't really be any effect unless people boycott in droves. I just wanted to lend my support to what Palma is saying. Hopefully there won't be too much shit flung around in this thread. Somehow I think that's too much to hope. lol

[mike_p_barnett2@hotm]

Im sorry but i can't agree at all. As much as we love the UFC as a sport, it is a buisness as well. It is there/ dana's obligation to further there organization by whatever means nessesary. This is how a business works. The UFC did not start out on top, they worked they way up by being innovative and giving the fans what they want. For me personaly I cannot offord another PPV and am very happy the UFC is putting on an event to compete with Affliction. Agian this is also a business and quite frankly would have been stupid for the UFC not to put this event on. As an MMA fan I will take all the events I can.. especially free ones!