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[Quintessential Studmuffin]

Originally Posted by twankydawg

You're crazy dude, do you know how big Vera will be fighting at 205lbs. Not to mention how much faster and stronger he will be than most guys at LHW. He is going to be a fucking beast and I'll take him in any fight against those guys and Wanderlei Silva is my favorite fighter of all time.

You sir are delusional. You put over Vera no matter who he faces,or at what weight he competes at.

I remember you saying back in the UFC 85 prediction thread that Werdum wouldnt be able to get him down,or stand with him at all. It seems as if your Vera-beast predictions are often quite off.

Hendo would take him down and do the same thing Werdum did. Wandy would bum rush him,close the distance,and KO him,and Lyoto would make him look like a total fool. Hell I think Reese Andy is gonna be able to beat him with his superior wrestling. Vera hasnt done jack shit in quite a while.

[pa99fighter]

Originally Posted by Quintessential Studmuffin

Bitch like moves by Vera IMHO.

By the way,he wouldnt make it outta the first against Hendo,Wandy,or Lyoto.

Wouldn't make it out of the first with Lyoto? are you kidding me? He hasn't stopped anyone in the first round since 2004 and that guy is most likely a can. He hasn't even stopped anyone since 2004 except Sokoudjou. Lyoto might possibly make Vera look stupid and chase him but to say Machida would stop Vera in the first is crazy. Hendo or Wandy has a shot in knocking him out in the first but Machida isn't going to be stopping anyone decent in the first round.

[jukon]

Good find. No love for Vera eh? It'll be funny to see how many of yall jump back on his bandwagon when he knocks out Reese Andy.

[Quintessential Studmuffin]

Originally Posted by pa99fighter

Wouldn't make it out of the first with Lyoto? are you kidding me? He hasn't stopped anyone in the first round since 2004 and that guy is most likely a can. He hasn't even stopped anyone since 2004 except Sokoudjou. Lyoto might possibly make Vera look stupid and chase him but to say Machida would stop Vera in the first is crazy. Hendo or Wandy has a shot in knocking him out in the first but Machida isn't going to be stopping anyone decent in the first round.

Whether he would make it outta the first or not,Lyoto would beat his ass,and make him look like an idiot while doing so. As would both Wand and Hendo.

[pa99fighter]

Originally Posted by Quintessential Studmuffin

Whether he would make it outta the first or not,Lyoto would beat his ass,and make him look like an idiot while doing so. As would both Wand and Hendo.

Then don't make bold statements that Lyoto will stop Vera when there is no evidence to backup your statement. Vera will tko Machida when they fight.

[hunterkiller]

Take the wheels off the Vera bandwagon. I never cared for Vera before and could care less if he KO's an IFL outcast. Set him up with a mid-level 205er and I'll reserve judgement until then. I think most people lost sight of the fact that Vera's highlight reel KO victories weren't against top tier fighters. When he starts walking through them, I'll believe the hype, until then, I just don't see the TRUTH.

[Quintessential Studmuffin]

Originally Posted by pa99fighter

Then don't make bold statements that Lyoto will stop Vera when there is no evidence to backup your statement..

Kinda like this??

Originally Posted by pa99fighter

Vera will tko Machida when they fight

You sir are a hypocrital bafoon,and I've just presented evidence to back this up. Now stfu.

[NixHex]

Amazing how a couple of months changes everything.

Vera shouldn't be dropping HOF names though to get some criticism off of himself, that's bush league shit. Wand or Hendo have no reason to accept a short notice fight, and they've earned the right to have proper training camps for whatever opponent they face next.

[jkilla374]

Originally Posted by twankydawg

Didn't he have a right to? He walked outta the cage without a scratch on him, this was kinda a shortsighted comment dude, that's not like you.

I disagree, obviously. The rule says "you must intelligently defend yourself at all times." The rule doesn't say "you must intelligently defend yourself at all times, except when you are not taking maximum damage." or "you must intelligently defend yourself at all times, except when you are taking only minimal damage."

If the round would have continued, Vera would have been mounted, not improving his position, and not fighting back for A FULL MINUTE!

So he didn't have a right to complaint, IMO.

The only reason I might have wanted the fight to continue a little longer was so that Werdum could have knocked Vera's face in. Let's call a spade a spade, Vera wasn't getting out of the round, there was about 30 seconds left...Vera should have been thanking the ref. for stopping it, b/c now he is not as injured as he surely would have been and is in better shape to take a quick fight, and didn't get a medical suspension.

[bigsmooth696969]

Originally Posted by twankydawg

You're crazy dude, do you know how big and strong Vera will be fighting at 205lbs? Not to mention how much faster and stronger he will be than most guys at LHW. He is going to be a fucking beast and I'll take him in any fight against those guys and Wanderlei Silva is my favorite fighter of all time.

LMAO, you are joking right? He stepped up in competition in the HW division lost. IMO the LHW division is stronger and more well rounded with Liddell, Silva, Rampage, Machida, etc. I mean even the middle of the pack LHW's have big wins ie: Griffin, Jardine, etc. I guess middle of the pack is not a good term but I would not quite call them upper tier guys. I know Griffin is fighting for the belt but I still put the aformentioned guys ahead of Forrest and jardine. Vera would be grouped with these guys, I just don't see how a drop to LHW helps his career. He could have fought a can at HW to get back on track and then maybe Gonzaga or Mir again or even Herring, Kongo, or Lesnar. A big KO or huge submission against one or two of these guys puts him right in title contention. I think his LHW stay will be short lived and he will be back at HW by mid 09.