Originally Posted by Quintessential Studmuffin
If you dont think Ortiz is twice the wrestler Vera is,you're just straight up delusional. Same goes to thinking Veras bjj is better,or even on par with Lyotos. You're purely talking out of your ass. Has Vera even ever taken someone down in MMA?! And how many guys has he submitted? One. Who's ground game is quite mediocre to say the least.
And baseless hate? Please. I said he'd get tooled by Wandy,Hendo,and Lyoto and then the nuthuggers came outta the wood work with a vengeance.
Tooled by Wandy and Lyoto, very much possible but Hendo i don't think so.
What really is Hendo going to do. Vera is bigger, stronger, faster, more skilled, better striking, better mt, better ground.
Hendo could take Vera down but i don't believe he could hold him there and standing Vera beats on Hendo.
You are just hating on Vera, you can try to deny it but its pure hate. To say he wouldn't make it out of the first round is very stupid.
The Werdum fight was imo pretty back an fourth until Werdum got it to the ground an got full mount. Werdum has fucking sick bjj, WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better then Lyoto, and when Gabe was scared to go to the ground with Werdum that says something about how good Werdum is.
Don't hate, appreciate lol.