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06-27-2008, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by thecoylewis 1-1 in the UFC isn't going to get you in a position to start asking favors there Soko. And challenging one of the best fighters in the world when you haven't proved jack is also not earning you any favors. Beat some of the bottom tiered guys and then challegne Shogun. And please Soko, wait until the guy isn't hurt. Maybe then you have a realistic shot of the fight being made. | hasnt proved jack? Soko has proved more in such little time then any LHW in the history of MMA.. and thats not just an opinion its an extremely heavy fuckin opinion that I doubt anyone can come up with any proper facts against.
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06-27-2008, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramma I got that from that sentence as well, Afro.
He may not have meant it that way.. but mentioning Rampage's cardio and not his, leaves one to believe that Soko thinks Forrest has less cardio (which isn't true) or he has little cardio (which isn't true).
Like I said, he may not have meant it, but it is how it came off. | I dont think he was talking about who has more or less.. but what both bring to the table.. what I got from that sentence was.. he started off by saying Rampage had power and cardio and then said Forrest has no power.. so what I got from that was he is saying they both have cardio but Rampage has power, and Forrest doesnt.
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06-27-2008, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro hasnt proved jack? Soko has proved more in such little time then any LHW in the history of MMA.. and thats not just an opinion its an extremely heavy fuckin opinion that I doubt anyone can come up with any proper facts against. | I agree that he's beaten some game opponents but on Shogun's level, I don't think so. And at 1-1 in the UFC, I just feel he'd be better suited winning a couple more before calling him out. And he should wait until Shogun is healthy.
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06-27-2008, 01:35 PM
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There's no way the Soko is going to get that fight with Shogun. Its to much of a risk. The UFC pays shogun way to much for him to go and fight someone who is relatively unknown and has a decent chance of winning
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06-27-2008, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thecoylewis I agree that he's beaten some game opponents but on Shogun's level, I don't think so. And at 1-1 in the UFC, I just feel he'd be better suited winning a couple more before calling him out. And he should wait until Shogun is healthy. | Ummm if you dont think Lil Nogs is on Shoguns level then you need to watch there fight together.. Shogun won that fight via LnP cuz he had to..
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06-27-2008, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thecoylewis I agree that he's beaten some game opponents but on Shogun's level, I don't think so. And at 1-1 in the UFC, I just feel he'd be better suited winning a couple more before calling him out. And he should wait until Shogun is healthy. | Lil Nog and Arona were both easily top LHW's in the world at the time Soko fought them. In fact Lil Nog and Arona are still among the top 10 LHW's in the world IMO. Seeing as they have not been as active lately that could easily be argued of course. Then you have Soko who was not even really ranked before going into those fights. Lil Nog never been KO'd before his fight with Soko.
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06-27-2008, 02:21 PM
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Soko's last two fights did very little to impress, IMO.
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06-27-2008, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Ummm if you dont think Lil Nogs is on Shoguns level then you need to watch there fight together.. Shogun won that fight via LnP cuz he had to.. | agreed! Soko stands a very good chance at beating Shogun. i dont understand how everyone in here can say Soko isnt on the level Shogun is when Shogun just got humiliated by Forrest...ridiculous.
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06-27-2008, 02:42 PM
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I just wanna see shogun fight again. After that loss to Forrest he needs to get in there and destroy someone. Its still hard for me to believe he came to UFC and lost his debut.  I say give soko what he wants and let shogun handle him. He would beat him like machida did, with his ground game.
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06-27-2008, 03:46 PM
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Soko started out much like Houston Alexander did. Now I think he is a better fighter who will stick or much longer than Houston did, but the fact that he got some good wins against some good guys doesn't convince me yet. He oesnt have the track record yet to substantiate the hype around him. Don't get me wrong, i like him, quite a bit actually, but I am also realistic and not swinging off his short and curlies here. He has to earn his keep just like everyone else. Sometimes i feel for guys who come in last second into a fight with a top guy, surprise him, beat him, and then get an enormous amount of expectation heaped onto them. Some guys like this have the potential to be the tops some day but once they set the precedent and are forced to fight only other top guys this early in their career they dont learn how to win, they learn how to lose.
We put kids into age appropriate leagues for sports so that they can be competitive. If they were to go up against teams all the time that were exceedingly better than them they would not learn how to improve their game, they would just flounder until they quit. I really hope they dont do that to Soko and as a fan I want to voice it because it seems to me that a lot of this online stuff is watched to see what fights we want to see and what fights we will pay for.
I will pay for this fight when it is TIME for this fight. Dont waste Soko, develop him first and let him be an investment.
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