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why do so many people want Mike Van Arsdale back? He's not very entertaining unless you enjoy watching him get subbed. The only fighters he's beaten are cans.
Yea if you want a MW back it should be Ivan over Van Arsdale Ivan is a better fighter and will make the division more cometitive.
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He was 2-0 in the UFC, hardly whooped. The UFC MW division isn't up to par with PRIDE's WW division right now from top to bottom. That's why you are seeing a guy who was mediocre in PRIDE(Anderson Silva) getting a title shot after 1 fight in the UFC.
id still like to see Henderson fight Rich, or even Lindland (which we know will never happen cuz of Team Quest)...but still i bet he'd lose to both of them.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Frank Shamrock back (even though that will never happen) If he shows well against Baroni.
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why do so many people want Mike Van Arsdale back? He's not very entertaining unless you enjoy watching him get subbed. The only fighters he's beaten are cans.
i agree! just saw him on Unleashed get subbed by Babalu. i remember seeing that fight the first time...out wrestling Babalu until he gives up his back and gets subbed. he really needs to work more on his jui jitsu before he's ever brought back...
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id still like to see Henderson fight Rich, or even Lindland (which we know will never happen cuz of Team Quest)...but still i bet he'd lose to both of them.
Alot of MW would lose to those 2 guys, they are arguably 2 of the top 3 MW in the world right now. Hendo would hardly get "whooped" in the UFC as you put it though.

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i agree! just saw him on Unleashed get subbed by Babalu. i remember seeing that fight the first time...out wrestling Babalu until he gives up his back and gets subbed. he really needs to work more on his jui jitsu before he's ever brought back...
I'm not saying he's the worst fighter around, but like you said he needs to work on his BJJ. He's lost 4 in a row, but all to pretty good fighters, I just don't see a need for him to be back in the UFC until he mounts some wins against some proven opponents. He's getting up there in age too, so he might not be fighting too much longer.
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Alot of MW would lose to those 2 guys, they are arguable 2 of the top 3 MW in the world right now. Hendo would hardly get "whooped" in the UFC as you put it though.
yeah but if he came to the UFC, who is he gunna fight? a can? an easy win for him? id hope not. he's a top MW in the world, so he'd have to fight the best and that is Rich. so would he get whooped, probably not, but id take a Franklin win in that fight any day!
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I'm not saying he's the worst fighter around, but like you said he needs to work on his BJJ. He's lost 4 in a row, but all to pretty good fighters, I just don't see a need for him to be back in the UFC until he mounts some wins against some proven opponents. He's getting up there in age too, so he might not be fighting too much longer.
i read after he lost to Lindland that he was considering retiring. i dont think he's a bad fighter either, but you're right...who really wants to see a fighter lose by submission all the time. it's like watching Tito pummel Shamrock over and over again...you just feel sorry for the guy seeing him lose the same way every time and not learning from it...
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In heavywheight it would have to be Herring(or if they had to be signed by UFC prior Barnett) LHW I would have to go w/ Rampage(or if already signed Salaverry) MW Frank Shamrock. WW I would say Matt Serra but he was recently brought back. Lw I would go w/ Duane the Bang Ludwig, he doesnt have the greatest ground game but he pulled the crane on a guy in an MMA fight and the dude was to scared to attack. He just kinda huddled against the cage hoping Duane would not hit him anymore.
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Lw I would go w/ Duane the Bang Ludwig, he doesnt have the greatest ground game but he pulled the crane on a guy in an MMA fight and the dude was to scared to attack. He just kinda huddled against the cage hoping Duane would not hit him anymore.
I forgot about Bang yes great choice.
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