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07-03-2008, 03:26 PM
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I think I remember reading that the Muhammad Ali Act does not apply to MMA. I might be wrong but I think its only for boxing
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07-03-2008, 03:43 PM
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IMO Matt just sounds stupid by saying this cuz ZUFFA DOES NOT MANAGE FIGHTERS!!!! Thats his whole arguement, that a promoter shouldnt be a manager, because conflict of intrest. Well sorry to tell you big guy but last time i checked Zuffa does not manage any fighters! Not Dana, Lorenzo, Joe Silva, none of them are fighters managers so what the fuck is he basing this off of?!?
Well if he feels so strongly about it, he should talk to Tim Sylvias Manager(Isnt he a promoter for Affliction or Adrenaline?)
Im sure if Matt was under contract, like he tried to be a few months back ,he wouldn't be saying this shit
I can see the next thread now: UFC Sues Matt Linland for Slander
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07-03-2008, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBanda  Obviously they are conducting business legally or using loop holes or else there would be major problems. | Yep, definately exploiting a loop hole in the system
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07-03-2008, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ILJO I think I remember reading that the Muhammad Ali Act does not apply to MMA. I might be wrong but I think its only for boxing | Case dismissed. EVEN if Lindland is right, lol what a dork, the Ali act only covers boxing. 
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07-03-2008, 06:39 PM
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If Linland wants to say it, but doesn't want to defend what he says in a definitive and comprehensive manner then it seems that his statements exist merely for his own publicity. Unfortunately, I couldn't care less about Linland's self-serving publicity attempts.
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07-03-2008, 06:43 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the UFC covered their bases as far as this goes. They have an entire ARMY of lawyers.
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07-03-2008, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pa99fighter | The UFC is not the manager, rather the company... Now then, with Monty Cox being a manager, and now working as a promoter, the ALI Act could apply.
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07-03-2008, 11:19 PM
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Operation of the words according to the law can make this stick, especially how the word manager is operationalized in the Ali Act. It may not stick with some of the newer fighters who have a say in their fights but even they could possibly argue that they stood to lose significant opportunity if they exercised their rights.
The place where this might stick in court is in the case of champions. The guys carrying the belts have to fight those thrown their way to my understanding. They are not given a choice. While I understand the reason for this, it could cast the UFC as manager and promoter effectively in the courtroom. Lindland may be referrign to Randy and in Randy's case it could work since he was a belt holder.
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07-04-2008, 12:23 AM
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UFC does not manager any fighters. They only promote fights once they are signed.
Also seeing Randy is champion, they kind can tell him when to fight because UFC can say the whole mandatory challenger thing. Boxing has it, an if you refuse they can fine you an strip you of a title.
Also i don't think the Ali act applies to MMA.
This is the Reform act GovTrack: H.R. 1832 [106th]: Text of Legislation
From the sounds of what i read here, the Ali safety reform act does not apply to MMA. It was entirely to long to post. Battle Lines Being Drawn: Why the Muhammad Ali Act Should Apply to MMA. | The Official Blog of the MMAFA
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07-04-2008, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jrube The UFC is not the manager, rather the company... Now then, with Monty Cox being a manager, and now working as a promoter, the ALI Act could apply. | That's a good point. I hadn't thought about that.
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