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Old 10-16-2006, 04:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Some champs may get beaten down like Fraklin did....but in reality, evolution passes everybody by in the MMA world. Royce Gracie was once thought to be unstoppable, and look what Matt Hughes did to him.

All the champs have to fall sooner or later, there's no stopping it, unless you retire on top.
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Old 10-16-2006, 05:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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franklin is an amazing fighter, he just got beat by another amazing fighter. there's a reason he's #1 on the mma middleweight rankings. also, your argument consists of two fights won by the same guy. that would be like me saying that pride sucks because cro cop beat silva and barnett
Franklin is a great fighter, I never said he wasn't. However I do think that there are different levels of fighters that could be considered great, and I don't think Franklin is at the top of that list. Also I didn't say that UFC sucks because Anderson Silva dominated two fighters that the UFC hyped to the roof. I am just saying that once the UFC brings in more international talent, then you will see who will be able to stay at the top of the UFC, and if that does happen, Franklin won't be the first champ that is looked upon as unstoppable to get dominated in a shocking fassion.
My argument does not come from two Anderson Silva fights, it's a fact that there are many top tier fighters that are not in the UFC. There are more great fighters spread out over other federations than on UFC rosters. It's just a fact that there are many fighters in the UFC that would not be considered as good as they are if the face higher level talent. For instance, do you think Mike Swick would be considered a real contender if all the MMA fighters in the world were in one big fed? Sometimes I think that people don't want to believe that UFC has a lot of hype sometimes and not enough talent to back it up all the time.
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How about we stop lableing these guys as ufc or pride fighters and just call them fighters. people on here take this shit way to far and appear to be nutthugging bandwagon fans.

there is no best fighter, or organization, on any given night anyone can be dropped

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i think the fact that pride draws fighters from all over the world makes a big difference too.
I'm failrly sure all reputable MMA orgs draw fighters from all over the world. Both the UFC and Pride have or have had fighters from Brazil, U.S., Canada, Mexico, The former Soviet Union, Japan, and Crotia. And I'm sure I've left a few out.


Like binimac said ...How about we stop lableing these guys as ufc or pride fighters and just call them fighters.
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Chuck isnt the longest reigning champ, tito defended his belt 5 times before being beaten by randy,
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