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i agree! except Anderson, im not convinced any of those guys could beat Franklin unless i actually saw them fight. Henderson would not beat Franklin, i dont care what anyone says! and why are there so many "who could beat Franklin" threads going around when that was only his second loss of his career out of 24 f*cking fights! gimme a break :banghead:

Hendo would not beat Franlin? I dunno man, I would put money on Hendo over Franklin and give someone odds on it as well.

Filho and Kang? Kang is a world class K-1 kickboxer, how does he not beat Franklin? Filho i probably the best MW in the world, he would beat Franklin as well. Franklin is top 5 at MW in the world and the 4 guys ahead of him I strongly feel would all beat him (and have felt this way LONG before the A. Silva fight).
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Hendo would not beat Franlin? I dunno man, I would put money on Hendo over Franklin and give someone odds on it as well.

Filho and Kang? Kang is a world class K-1 kickboxer, how does he not beat Franklin? Filho i probably the best MW in the world, he would beat Franklin as well. Franklin is top 5 at MW in the world and the 4 guys ahead of him I strongly feel would all beat him (and have felt this way LONG before the A. Silva fight).
im not even a huge Franklin fan, but i think it's wrong that people like you and everyone else are writing him off after only the second loss in his career. and to say all these Pride guys could beat him wreaks of biased. who cares if Filho is undefeated, you never know what would happen in a fight until it happens. and Henderson is the one guy on that list im 100% sure Franklin would beat. id put money on that! i always felt Anderson was gunna win that fight. to most people, it was an upset, and 2006 is the year of the upset IMO. but i never looked at it as an upset, i thought Anderson was the better fighter. but still, to say all those guys could beat Rich is blatant ignorance.
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Supreme you are so PRIDE biased it makes me want to fuckin puke sometimes lol.

Supreme just knows what all you UFC Fanboys don't know that the best fighters are not in the UFC.
So however you can get you hands of some Pride video's.
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im not even a huge Franklin fan, but i think it's wrong that people like you and everyone else are writing him off after only the second loss in his career. and to say all these Pride guys could beat him wreaks of biased. who cares if Filho is undefeated, you never know what would happen in a fight until it happens. and Henderson is the one guy on that list im 100% sure Franklin would beat. id put money on that! i always felt Anderson was gunna win that fight. to most people, it was an upset, and 2006 is the year of the upset IMO. but i never looked at it as an upset, i thought Anderson was the better fighter. but still, to say all those guys could beat Rich is blatant ignorance.

I am not writing Rich off, how is calling him #6 in the world with the fighters ahead if him being:

1.Filho
2.Silva
3. Hendo
4.Lindland
5. Kang

writing him off? Those fighters I have above him are all world class fighters, I don't get your logic behind your accusatgion that putting Franklin behind those fighters would be blatant ignorance.

I had him at #5 before but with this loss I would have to put Kang in front of him now as Kang is a world class striker and Rich would look to stand and exchange so therefore, IMO he would lose, hence Shogun being outstruck by the Snake. Shogun is a phenomenal striker, one of the very best but was no match for K-1 kickboxing, those guys have laser guided accuracy.

I think Rich will return and do very well in the UFC and possibly regain the title but if he is to regain it I think it is going to hve to come at the hands of a different champion.

Also your comment about FIlho being undefeated and so what... Well Leben was undefeated before he fought A. Silva and I did not have him anywhere near the top 10. it is not about record, it is about skill and Filho posesses mass amounts of it.

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Fucking Christ Supreme! Do you masturbate while watching Pride?
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Supreme just knows what all you UFC Fanboys don't know that the best fighters are not in the UFC.
So however you can get you hands of some Pride video's.

Ohh I own plenty of Pride DVD's. I know about Pride's fighters and what kind of talent they have. I'm just not going to make 3 threads in one night that scream I'm a Pride nut hugger. Like your man Supreme. Douche
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Ohh I own plenty of Pride DVD's. I know about Pride's fighters and what kind of talent they have. I'm just not going to make 3 threads in one night that scream I'm a Pride nut hugger. Like your man Supreme. Douche
Legend you are the man hahaha. I had trouble understanding Supreme to be honest, then again it is hard to understand someone when Pride's proverbial penis is so far down their throat. F*** this Pride Nuthuggery and UFC Fanboy Sh**, why don't you guys try to be MMA fans for once instead of Pride or UFC fans. Try it for one month and see if you enjoy MMA anymore than you already do.
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Hmm Anderson Silva's a former Chute Boxe Academy and PRIDE fighter, but he's the UFC MW champ right now.

From PRIDE, I think

Kang
Filho
Henderson
Bustamante

And Chonan's sweeping heel hook on (I think Yves Edwards) was AWESOME, one of the best submission victories ever. But I think Franklin would beat him.
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Everyone says, I'm not writing him off, blah blah blah. If not then where were these threads before he got beat? I mean come on....give the guy a break...2 losses. A fight is a fight and anything could happen when you are at this skill level. You can't say that anyone would definately beat anyone.
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If Franklin would have beaten Silva, this thread would have never happend. Everybody would have been saying Franklin was the best MW in the world whooooo

To whom this may concern. Stop being band wagon riders!!!!! The same thing happend with Wand. He loses one fight and everybody is writing him off. Can ya'll start respecting fighters a little bit more please!!
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