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[fredro32]

That is an important statement by Dana, should Huerta have a dominating win. A little c.y.a. by Mr. White.

[hunterkiller]

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

In this case, Huerta aired the dirty laundry, not Dana.

I have no sympathy for Huerta in this situation. He's been fed easy opponents (one or two of which gave him all he could handle) to build his name and image, which has led to a good many sponsorship deals, and if he beats Florian, you can bet your ass that'll give him big bargaining power in re-negotiations.

Roger's an exciting fighter, but he needs to do just that: shut the fuck up, fight, and prove he's a six-figure employee.

As I said in my post, it's not uncommon for the athlete to air the dirty laundry in an attempt at obtaining leverage. However, the owner or "boss" usually takes the high road and handles it behind closed doors.

Constant retaliation in the media sets a bad precedent for the morale of the other guys in the locker room.

Originally Posted by Dimson

Dana is the Jerry Jones, George Steinbrenner, and Mark Cuban of MMA. Those guys regurally blast their players in the media and in the end it usually leads to results. So I don't blame him for saying some of the stuff he says. Hell I would have never knowns about the whole Randy signing bonus if he never mentioned it in a radio interview. And if what he says gets his fighter's fired up to put on a good show, more power to him.

How long has it been for Steinbrenner, Jones, and Cuban winning any championships. Sometimes, that formula doesn't always result in wins.

[CESSPOOL]

Why is it that there is always a Villian if you will for Dana? Huerta is marketable and now he has started a war against the UFC. Worked for Tito. Sold the shit out of tickets when stone cold did this with Vince. Scripted but the same concept. Randy definitly created a media frenzy. Something about this is fishy to me. People love a good villian. Huerta may be trying to do just that and be using $$$ as a scapegoat to achieve the same result Tito did. But it could essentially catapolt his career with all the interest he can generate. People love conflict. Or maybe Even Dana is trying to create a rivalry for rating sake. Putting some soap opera plot into the shows. I think it would make sense.

[bega]

Originally Posted by Ifightforaliving

Huerta's mouth screwed him out of more money and a title shot.

I would agree about money but isn't it UFC unwritten rule not to give title fights as the last fight on a contract.

In any case I don't see Huerta getting a title shot even if he destroys Florian before he renegotiates contract extension.

[Ifightforaliving]

even if he signs a new one Dana will put him through the wringer first.I think(if) he beats Florian then he will have to fight at least 1-2 more times before he is given a title shot. It won't matter he won't beat Florian anyways. he may find himself in limbo for a year and then on a shitty undercard fight.

[jlruthven84]

Originally Posted by thecoylewis

As I said in my post, it's not uncommon for the athlete to air the dirty laundry in an attempt at obtaining leverage. However, the owner or "boss" usually takes the high road and handles it behind closed doors.

Constant retaliation in the media sets a bad precedent for the morale of the other guys in the locker room.


How long has it been for Steinbrenner, Jones, and Cuban winning any championships. Sometimes, that formula doesn't always result in wins.

Agreed, and its not how I would handle things, but Huerta should know better. Dana rewards good fighters, especially #1 contenders and champions; they just have to prove that they're worth it. Huerta's acting like a child (believe me, I have a 4-year-old) who wants his snack before dinner, and he's about to be sent to his room.

Or something.

[hunterkiller]

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

Agreed, and its not how I would handle things, but Huerta should know better. Dana rewards good fighters, especially #1 contenders and champions; they just have to prove that they're worth it. Huerta's acting like a child (believe me, I have a 4-year-old) who wants his snack before dinner, and he's about to be sent to his room.

Or something.

Yea, I wasn't saying Huerta handled it right but Dana never takes the high road and he behaves like a child. It's one thing for the athletes to do that but when the President, the one who represents the company, the one who's supposed to set an example acts that way, it's got to kill the locker room morale.

I do like Huerta's anti-establishment stance though. I don't know why but I think all the fighters regardless of who they fought, if they've made it to the UFC, they should be making more. It's just my stance. I like that Huerta is standing up for himself even though I don't think he went about it the right way.

Cue Huerta walking into Dana's office with a crowbar saying, "you see what happens Dana when you f**k a fighter in the a$$!"

[Mac]

Once again Dana is the bad guy for responding to what Huerta said first? People fuck me up looking for a way to make Dana the evil asshole when Huerta was running his mouth.

Dana was asked a question and he answered. Don't we wish all stars and atheletes would be as honest and up front? We do until they are and then, oh, no, what an asshole.

Dana even said, beat Florian and we will talk, so Dana knows that if Huerta wins he will be renegotiating. Plus he's right, you signed a contract, Dana didn't hold a gun to your head, so shut up and fight.

You don't want to do PR anymore fine, someone else will gladly take the free exposure you seem to think you should get paid for.

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i don't know...i think resorting to saying "stupid stuff like roger" is a little low for dana although i'm not sure what huerta's said so far either. honestly i don't really like huerta but it's understanding that he is fighting good and at the end of his contract and wants to plan his future better. he hasn't been here before and who knows who is probably calling asking him about his situation with the ufc and offering contracts also. he needs to get a better agent in my opinion.

he should have learned from couture that dana and the brothers do things their way and he has to learn the line "i'll fight whoever the ufc wants me to fight."

[LefthookStcrook]

I know theres tons of Dana hate on the forums here so im prolly gonna get flamed or Neg'd for saying this... But I agree with everything Danas saying about Huerta. And ill explain why

Boohoo," White said. "Guys have been doing it the eight years we've been running the company.

Very true, look at the Titos and Chucks and Randys who have put there time in with the UFC, there all millionares! Sure Tito and Randy arnt with them now but thats only because they wanted.......*drum roll please*....more money!

" Oscar De La Hoya weighs in on Friday, then jumps on a plane to California and does Jay Leno and all these other talk shows because that's how you build your name up and become famous, and that's how you make your money.

This is SO true its sick. ANY professional athlete knows you gotta put in your time before you see the big bux. It takes time, hard work and dedication before you can really start to see the big money in almost any industry, the fight game is no different. Dana makes a perfect example with Dela Hoya but another really good comparision is the person Roger mentioned himself, and compares himself to.... Dale Ernhardt!

Both are proffesional athlete and are loved in their respective sports, both put in long hard hours of THEIR OWN TIME to get where there at now, and in the end, both go down in history as legends of their sports. Do you find that worth it? I do. Do you think Dale is regreting the free promo tour he might have done back in 1999 as hes laughing it up in his Jacuzi, looking at his trophys on the wall, loving life? Fuck No! Hes saying " All the hard work finally paid off".

Roger should know that it take time to become a star...Which brings me to my next point: The UFC could have chosen anyone to make a star, Roger should be thankfull.

You know what else we have? We have guys in the UFC bitching that guys like Roger Huerta get all the PR and that they don't get any."

Roger should be on his knees THANKING the UFC for even letting him fight in there cage and be on their cards! Seriously, without the UFC does anyone here think he would have made the cover of SI?? :headscratch: Didnt think so

Theres tons of fighters in the UFC(Kennys one of them), that understand this is a bussiness. You gotta start from the bottom, and work your way up the hard way like everyone else(and rogers had a easier road to the belt then most). Theres so many fighters in the UFC that train there hardest and fight whenever Joe Silva gives them the go, weither its a week or months in advance there ready, no bitching no whining, they just go in there and do there job, if they win and there impressive, they know they will be compensated.

Which once again brings me to yet another point: Roger should just shut up, fight and perform THEN talk. Dana says this as well

"Some of these guys start saying stupid stuff like Roger. I don't get what he's talking about. You signed a contract. You've got two fights left on it. You've got a tough fight with Kenny Florian. You win it? We'll talk."

Dana is laying it all out on the table in this paragraph, He tells him straight up "You signed a contract". Which he did, and I bet my left nut he was as happy as a pig in shit when the UFC offered him that contract. Then right after says" You got two fights left, your next one is a tough fight against Florian, and if you win we'll talk". Seems pretty righteous to me.

He tells him straight up, if you dont like your contract, then win your next fight and you'll be in a good spot. Roger should be happy hes getting the chance to fight a big name to increase hes stock. Cuz as Dana mentioned there tons of fighters im sure would love the chances that Roger is getting

The UFC could have easily just stuck him on undercards against cans for two fights and be done with him, or they couldn't have signed him at all, THEN where would roger be??? NO WHERES near as popular and famous as he is now, he should be thanking the UFC.

End of rant