Machida to Ortiz- "If I need to, I'll do it all over again." - Page 2

MYboyBISPING · 08-13-2008, 05:40 AM

I was there live for that fight and ppl were booing because they cant seem to understand what true talent on how to stick and move and being that Machida coming from a Kung-Fu background that being always on the counter and the first rule is not to get hit is very important in any form of fight.

Pretty much what some of these idiots only want is blood baths and that's what mma mean to these ppl and that's why mma keeps getting these stigmatize thoughts that they cant get rid of.

Tito should learn some mma and learn how to strike. All Tito can do is ground and pound and pretty much if he cant take you down he cant win a fight to save his life. Tito Sucks and I'm glad he's not in the UFC anymore.

Mean · 08-13-2008, 05:46 AM

Martial Arts is like 90% defense, i.e. avoiding getting hit. I prefer pitching battles over high scoring affairs in baseball so I guess that is why I prefer Machida to Wanderlai.

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T · 08-13-2008, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MYboyBISPING

Tito should learn some mma and learn how to strike. All Tito can do is ground and pound and pretty much if he cant take you down he cant win a fight to save his life. Tito Sucks and I'm glad he's not in the UFC anymore.

This is a pretty retarded comment.

thebwit · 08-13-2008, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MYboyBISPING

I was there live for that fight and ppl were booing because they cant seem to understand what true talent on how to stick and move and being that Machida coming from a Kung-Fu background that being always on the counter and the first rule is not to get hit is very important in any form of fight.

Pretty much what some of these idiots only want is blood baths and that's what mma mean to these ppl and that's why mma keeps getting these stigmatize thoughts that they cant get rid of.

Tito should learn some mma and learn how to strike. All Tito can do is ground and pound and pretty much if he cant take you down he cant win a fight to save his life. Tito Sucks and I'm glad he's not in the UFC anymore.

I don't consider myself part of this group of people you are referring to and I thought the fight was BORING AS HELL. Did Machida fight a smart fight? Yes. Did Machida actually come to fight? No. He came to get some points, and back off, and get some more points, and back off.

This is the Ultimate FIGHTING Championship, not the Ultimate POINT SCORING Championship. So yes, I want to see people actually fight. Does it have to be a blood bath? No. Does it have to be a stand up war? No. But it does have to have fighters who are engaged in some form or another.

There is a huge difference, to me, in how Machida's smart fight came off vs Lesnar/Herring or Forrest/Ramirez. Machida's "elusiveness" did not entertain, did not look like he wanted to be there.

So I can give Machida credit for winning the fight - he did fair and square within the rules. But that doesn't mean I have to like the guy or root for him. And here's a little food for thought for Machida and his elusiveness - There are 3 bonuses given out at the end of the night, fight, sub, and ko of the night. Being elusive sure won't earn you FOTN, and if you go the distance all the time because you care more about scoring points, then you won't be getting the sub or ko of the night. And being that you are always fighting on a PPV, these bonuses seem to be in the $50-$75k range. Nice little extra chunk of change.

mauladala · 08-13-2008, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MYboyBISPING

I was there live for that fight and ppl were booing because they cant seem to understand what true talent on how to stick and move and being that Machida coming from a Kung-Fu background that being always on the counter and the first rule is not to get hit is very important in any form of fight.

Karate background btw. Not Kung Fu.

Anyway,

Machida whoopped Tito's ass with a beautiful display of counter striking and continually rebuffing ALL takedown attempts.

The fight was not boring AT ALL given the judo takedown at the end of round one followed by near fight ending GnP in which Tito was saved by the bell. There was a vicious knee in round 3 that put a "God help me I broke 10 ribs" look on Tito's face, followed by some GnP. And then a beautiful Triangle out of nowhere from Tito that nearly finishes Lyoto.

None of what I just mentioned equals boring. At all. Ever. And those are only highlights for "fans" too ignorant to apprceiate Machida's skill.

thebwit · 08-13-2008, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mauladala

The fight was not boring AT ALL given the judo takedown at the end of round one followed by near fight ending GnP in which Tito was saved by the bell. There was a vicious knee in round 3 that put a "God help me I broke 10 ribs" look on Tito's face, followed by some GnP. And then a beautiful Triangle out of nowhere from Tito that nearly finishes Lyoto.

None of what I just mentioned equals boring. At all. Ever. And those are only highlights for "fans" too ignorant to apprceiate Machida's skill.

No those things you mentioned were not boring. But the entire fight to me was. Those three things lasted a total of 1 minute out of 15. The other 15 was Tito trying to press the action, Machidia being elusive and scoring points and not doing any real damage in the fight. His little double roundhouse kick did hardly any damage, but it looks good. So yeah as I stated before, the fight was a smart fight, but a boring smart fight to me.

scottsec · 08-13-2008, 06:39 AM

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This is a pretty retarded comment.

Shit man its true. Tito hasnt done shit in awhile. Id still like him to be in the UFC but as far as his fights go he has become a joke imo.

Intellectual · 08-13-2008, 06:44 AM

I find Machida's style of fighting very entertaining and it has that unexpected manner. great fighter, and im expecting alot from him in the future. easily my fav LHW.