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08-13-2008, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Howie Gotta love Fedor. Sucks it was Iole writing that because he's in Dana's pocket so he takes Fedors comments out of context.
Fedors the best. I'd actually say Fedor, GSP, Silva is the top three in that order. Just because Anderson Silva has cleaned out a weak UFC Middleweight division doesnt make him the man. Dana White telling you he is the man is what makes him the man.
Not to knock Anderson. But hes just not the best P4P Put fedor in there with Anderson. who do you honestly think would win. Fedor owns him | but the same goes for GSP vs Anderson, Anderson owns him.
Fedor is the best no doubt. That is until AA beats him hehe
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08-13-2008, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimson If he really wants the fight to happen just sign on the dotted line with the UFC already. It isn't that hard. If he really wants it to happen just call Dana up and say lets do it. It really isn't that hard at all. It only requires a call, then a signature and a hand shake. If Fedor really wants this fight to happen he will make it happen. He needs to just take his career in his own hands instead of letting his managers run everything. | What part of "this is how I make a living" did you not get? Also, who in their right minds would "just sign a dotted line"? You'd have to be first class idiot not to understand why he didn't sign with the UFC. Your comment of "just sign it" is pretty naive to say the least.
Edit: BTW, his managers got him millions of guaranteed money and freedom to fight wherever he wants.
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08-13-2008, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chungt79 What part of "this is how I make a living" did you not get? Also, who in their right minds would "just sign a dotted line"? You'd have to be first class idiot not to understand why he didn't sign with the UFC. Your comment of "just sign it" is pretty naive to say the least.
Edit: BTW, his managers got him millions of guaranteed money and freedom to fight wherever he wants. | All he has to do is call Dana up and say I want this fight to happen and I want it to happen in the UFC. That would end all this mess. How am I an idiot for saying that? And why didn't he sign with the UFC? Just because they wanted an exclusive contract and for him to not do Sambo while under contract? That is not really alot to ask IMO.
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08-13-2008, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimson All he has to do is call Dana up and say I want this fight to happen and I want it to happen in the UFC. That would end all this mess. How am I an idiot for saying that? And why didn't he sign with the UFC? Just because they wanted an exclusive contract and for him to not do Sambo while under contract? That is not really alot to ask IMO. | Would you do anything differently? He is fighting in multiple organizations with millions in guaranteed money and he can still compete in Sambo. Also, the best HWs are in Affliction. What do you get with UFC? Oh, you just have to sell your soul.
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08-13-2008, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chungt79 Would you do anything differently? He is fighting in multiple organizations with millions in guaranteed money and he can still compete in Sambo. Also, the best HWs are in Affliction. What do you get with UFC? Oh, you just have to sell your soul. | Do you know that he is getting paid millions per fight?
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08-13-2008, 08:29 PM
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There are many good reasons why he didn't sign with UFC, and very few good reasons to do so. Sign away the rights to his image, fight footage, ability to do Sambo, conduct interviews without UFC permission, have his contract extended automatically (Champion Clause), or be dropped at will if he lost, to name a few.
All just so he could fight Randy and wreck Nog again? That's ridiculous.
Considering how much grief his manager Vadim Finkelstein got during the UFC negotiation, he actually turned out to be pretty damn good!
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08-13-2008, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Squeako There are many good reasons why he didn't sign with UFC, and very few good reasons to do so. Sign away the rights to his image, fight footage, ability to do Sambo, conduct interviews without UFC permission, have his contract extended automatically (Champion Clause), or be dropped at will if he lost, to name a few.
All just so he could fight Randy and wreck Nog again? That's ridiculous.
Considering how much grief his manager Vadim Finkelstein got during the UFC negotiation, he actually turned out to be pretty damn good! | The UFC could lead to numerous sponsership deals. How is that signing away your image? You will make more money because of the UFC. Without the UFC most of these fighters wouldn't make half the amount of money they make now. The UFC spends all their money promoting the fighters and their events. What do the fighters have to pay to put on the events? And being dropped happens if you lose and don't put on a good performance. That happens in every job/sport. If you don't preform you get the boot and I see nothing wrong with it. If you are not worth the money they are paying you they are going to stop paying you, it is just that simple.
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08-13-2008, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimson The UFC could lead to numerous sponsership deals. How is that signing away your image? You will make more money because of the UFC. Without the UFC most of these fighters wouldn't make half the amount of money they make now. The UFC spends all their money promoting the fighters and their events. What do the fighters have to pay to put on the events? And being dropped happens if you lose and don't put on a good performance. That happens in every job/sport. If you don't preform you get the boot and I see nothing wrong with it. If you are not worth the money they are paying you they are going to stop paying you, it is just that simple. | Hey atleast Fedor didnt sign a contract he found unfair and went ahead and didnt honor it... Yeah I'm talking about you Randy. Fedor did the right thing. He has a cush deal. He's making millions, gets to fight in Sambo tournaments... Gets to do any interviews he'd like, gets to keep his fight footage, I mean, what else could you ask for? Fedor is in a position that's comfortable for FEDOR. Signing with the UFC he wouldnt get this freedom. Think about it. This is exactly why other fighters DONT sign with the UFC.... They like the freedom of other orgs.
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08-13-2008, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimson The UFC could lead to numerous sponsership deals. How is that signing away your image? You will make more money because of the UFC. Without the UFC most of these fighters wouldn't make half the amount of money they make now. The UFC spends all their money promoting the fighters and their events. What do the fighters have to pay to put on the events? And being dropped happens if you lose and don't put on a good performance. That happens in every job/sport. If you don't preform you get the boot and I see nothing wrong with it. If you are not worth the money they are paying you they are going to stop paying you, it is just that simple. | But even assuming this is all true, what would he have better than he has now?, more money maybe, but Randy would still be gone, because the money apparently wasn't that good and he's stated several times he doesn't want to fight in the UFC, all he'd have is yet another fight with Nog, whereas Affliction has Sylvia, AA, Barnett etc along with the freedom to represent Sambo.
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08-13-2008, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimson Do you know that he is getting paid millions per fight? | How do you know Chuck is? How do you know Tito was? How about Randy? We never saw the figures officially. It was all done through a credible media source. I don't understand the point of your argument. Why would Fedor sign with the UFC? They have a shitty HW division. Fedor will be fighting the best because he DID NOT sign with the UFC. Also, Randy was never a #2 HW in the world, so it wasn't as if he deserved to fight Fedor anyway. In any case, to throw away so much of your freedom just to fight Randy is just plain stupid. Seriously, you'd do that if you are Fedor?
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