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[bobcat]

I really don't see this as the superfight that others seem to, sure I quite like the idea of seeing Randy getting tooled in a matter of seconds, but i'm not too bothered if it never happens, as it's no where near the calibre of fight that Randy thinks it is.

And 6-10 million for Randy (it's about respect not money) Couture - the greedy fucker.

Fedor by complete domination.

[Dork8503]

Personally i will not buy it if it does happen.

This fight is very lopsided imo an people just refuse to see it.

[rugoatee]

Originally Posted by MasterShake

Yeah, but I am not talking about Dream I am talking about Fedor and the Japanese fans. They go ape shit for him over there like he is there crack. Look up the event where he fought HOng Man Choi that event sold out. The only draw on that card really was Fedor, thats all the Japanese need to hear is Fedor. Good debate though I gotta take off for awhile so this may be to be continued, but for now you are REP'd, for a non pissy debate thank you.

Agreed. Good debate. Glad it is not a keyboard pissing contest.

However, you point is still flawed. Agreed Fedor is big there but he is not their biggest star. Regardless, they can't support a Fedor/Randy fight and make any money. The Saitama Super Arena holds about 37,000. The Yarennoka show that you spoke of (with Fedor in it) did not sell out and had 27,128 in attendance. And that card also had Tatsuya Kawajiri, Mitsuhiro Ishida, Hayato Sakurai and Shinya Aoki, VERY popular fighters over there. The lowest ticket price for the Yarennoka show were ~$65 (7,000 yen) and it did not sell out.

As others have also said, the Japanese typically do not buy PPV. Let's hypothetically say Fedor and Randy want to make $2 million each for the fight, one third of the low salary Randy put out there in the recent interview. For the sake of arguement, let's say Fedor and Randy are the only two fights getting paid on the card and there are no advertising or operating costs. For purposes of this arguement, let's even say the Saitama Super Arena sells out as well. In order for Randy and Fedor to make $2 million each, the average ticket price would need to be .... $108.10 US

That is without any other fighter salaries, operating costs and a generous assumption it sells out.

If you assume there that there are at least 8 fights on card (standard card), that is another 14 fighters that need to be paid. If we assume each one makes a average of $40,000 (some will make more, some probably less, low estimate), that is another $560,000 to the costs of the fight. The price of the average ticket goes up to ~$125.00 US. And if you were to add the big name japanese fighters listed above (which would probably be needed if it were going to sell out) then the fighter salaries would go WAY up.

This is all not even taking into account the operating costs of the event staff, advertising, insurance and cost to use the arena. This would probably double or triple the price. And this is all assuming that they also sell out, which they did not do with the Yarennoka show you spoke of.

So when you take the low end estimates for salary and the high end assumption for ticket sales it still doesn't make a ton of money for the fighters. Not saying I wouldn't want to see it, but I don't think this fight can make any real money for the fighters, especially when you account for operating costs.

[King Fisher]

Originally Posted by bobcat

Randy (it's about respect not money) Couture

A great fighting name!

[MasterShake]

Originally Posted by rugoatee

Agreed. Good debate. Glad it is not a keyboard pissing contest.

However, you point is still flawed. Agreed Fedor is big there but he is not their biggest star. Regardless, they can't support a Fedor/Randy fight and make any money. The Saitama Super Arena holds about 37,000. The Yarennoka show that you spoke of (with Fedor in it) did not sell out and had 27,128 in attendance. And that card also had Tatsuya Kawajiri, Mitsuhiro Ishida, Hayato Sakurai and Shinya Aoki, VERY popular fighters over there. The lowest ticket price for the Yarennoka show were ~$65 (7,000 yen) and it did not sell out.

As others have also said, the Japanese typically do not buy PPV. Let's hypothetically say Fedor and Randy want to make $2 million each for the fight, one third of the low salary Randy put out there in the recent interview. For the sake of arguement, let's say Fedor and Randy are the only two fights getting paid on the card and there are no advertising or operating costs. For purposes of this arguement, let's even say the Saitama Super Arena sells out as well. In order for Randy and Fedor to make $2 million each, the average ticket price would need to be .... $108.10 US

That is without any other fighter salaries, operating costs and a generous assumption it sells out.

If you assume there that there are at least 8 fights on card (standard card), that is another 14 fighters that need to be paid. If we assume each one makes a average of $40,000 (some will make more, some probably less, low estimate), that is another $560,000 to the costs of the fight. The price of the average ticket goes up to ~$125.00 US. And if you were to add the big name japanese fighters listed above (which would probably be needed if it were going to sell out) then the fighter salaries would go WAY up.

This is all not even taking into account the operating costs of the event staff, advertising, insurance and cost to use the arena. This would probably double or triple the price. And this is all assuming that they also sell out, which they did not do with the Yarennoka show you spoke of.

So when you take the low end estimates for salary and the high end assumption for ticket sales it still doesn't make a ton of money for the fighters. Not saying I wouldn't want to see it, but I don't think this fight can make any real money for the fighters, especially when you account for operating costs.

I think I am going to be forced to say you take it, you do way to much research for me. Maybe if I wasnt at work most of my time on here I would try to rebutle from this point.

From this post on I will be claiming I am the Drizzle--Not hard enough rain to get an Umbrella, but still enough to get you wet in an annoying fashion.