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[split2874]

Once again I would feel that Randy would not win b/c of all of the same reasons we always have for why Randy would not win....but he just wins

ONce this fight is really going to happen I will put more thought into it

War Lesner

[valheruking]

Randy has too much of an experience advantage to count him out really, and he has a sub game, maybe not a great one but he doesn't need a great one. When Brock takes him down he could catch him with something off his back maybe, Brocks inexperience on the ground is still a big factor in his fights. Unless he's somehow remedied that since the Mir fight.

Hard to see how this would go but I get why people think Brock would win.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by MetalHead75

Very hard one to call. I'd say if Brock does win, he wins exactly this way, I don't see him being able to finish Randy. But to me the real question is, why does Brock even deserve to fight Randy yet?

I think the UFC's HW division is so weak, there's not a lot of other opportunities. There's Nog, but they don't want Randy to even get a chance to leave with the belt. There's Werdum, but Randy is a bad matchup for Werdum.

I really think Dana sees Lesnar as the most effective matchup vs. Couture; and it's win-win for Dana: If Randy beats him, it's because Lesnar is so inexperienced. If Brock wins, Randy leaves with a loss, which will make Dana happy.


I'm favoring Randy...right now, Brock is covering huge holes in his game with strength and speed. Randy is one of the best fighters ever at exploiting a single mistake [Fedor and Nog are arguably better, in my opinion] and Brock makes a lot of them. Randy's sub game isn't stellar, but Brock's BJJ defense is so green, it doesn't need to be. In two years [or even 4 or 5 solid fights], if Brock doesn't flame out and go on to TRL videos or something, I think Brock beats him.

But in 2008, I have Randy outthinking him before the fight, and imposing a better game plan to take advantage of the holes in Brock's game.


rh

[WinnipegRush]

I dunno Brock will keep on getting better and better from each fight i think he could beat Couture with a solid game plan but its not going to be and easy walk in the park. Right now i would call it Lesnar via decision.

[ILJO]

Originally Posted by rivethead

There's Werdum, but Randy is a bad matchup for Werdum.

why do you say that?

I personally think Werdum would beat Randy.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by ILJO

why do you say that?

I personally think Werdum would beat Randy.

I think Werdum does well when he can dictate the pace and spacing of a fight...Gonzaga did well when he was able to tie him up standing, until Werdum established range and kept him at bay until he could hurt him.

All of his legal drama aside and the specter of old age gaining more solidity over his shoulder every day, there aren't a lot of fighters who are better at tying up fighters and using the cage than Randy. I don't think Couture has a lot of chance to actually stop Werdum, but I think he's an odds-on favorite to win a decision.

rh

[Terrance]

Brock can hang in there with a much more experienced Couture. Even on his back due to his wrestling as he needs a good gameplan for that too. If Lesnar stops Couture it'll take at least 2 rounds. If this happens, Couture better train his ass off on BJJ as much as he can, especially on transitions, from his back and most important of all wrestling defense.

[willpunisher]

lesnar by overpowering and laying on top for 5 rounds

[Y2JUBAE]

I think it's crazy to think that Randy can outwrestle Brock. That won't happen.

Randy does have a sick ability to size someone up and exploit their weaknesses.

Brock is bigger, stronger, faster, younger, however, Randy's experience evens it out easily.

I think, Brock will take him down, but from there, Randy may be able to submit him with some Jujitsu (Brock's apparent weakness). Like I said, Randy is a MASTER of creating a good game plan and making it WORK!

Toss up really. Great fight. Legend v.s. The Next Big Thing.

I'm going with Brock.

On another note, if it were Fedor vs. Brock, I could see Brock slamming Fedor around for a while (think Randleman v. Fedor only worse), then, Fedor submitting him with some type of heel hook (think Mir v.s. Lesnar). Fedor seems to be some kind of robot, if anyone else had of been slammed like that by Randleman, they would be dead.

With Brock, when he learns some Jujitsu and Jujitsu defense, the Monster will be COMPLETE!

[thedon17]

I'm sure this has been said in the first 3 pages but if Lesnar beats Randy, I wonder if Randy still wants Fedor?
Maybe he does but hype will go down but he will still have to avenge the loss to Lesnar.