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[Ubermensch]

Originally Posted by rugoatee

Yes the UFC was losing money, but they were losing money as basically the only product in the industry. Affliction has to deal with the same growing pains but also compete with a brand that has become synonomous with MMA. The UFC didn't really have to compete with anyone when they were figuring out how to run their business and build brand loyalty. It is a huge obstacle for Assliction to overcome. I usually don't agree with Dan but this time I do. I don't see Affliction being around much longer. I see them closing shop early to mid 2009.

Not true they had to compete with Pride at the time Zuffa bought them. Shooto and Pancrase before that.

Originally Posted by bobbyjones

so you're not a real mma fan if you like a cage better than a ring and don't watch shoot fighting?

Nah Bobby it just seems like every tom Dick and harry has been a fan sense the start and use that an excuse to bash something. So I usually call that person out. I like the cage too but bashing on the ring just because they have been watching the UFC sense 1843 is not a reasonable argumentation for why it is not good. The guy could have actually put some good reasons for his debate but he didn't.

Actually you come across as a moron. You're argumentative, bitter and can't take a disagreeing opinon in any fashion. Just look at your history
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Maybe the rest of the world isn't wrong.

Yea that dude is a total troll.

[Duskseyr]

Originally Posted by thecoylewis

If he's an elitist, what does that make you, a peasant? Keep strutting around here with that chip on your shoulder. It will get you no where fast.

I fail to see where standing up for myself, and not being a sheep, is me having a chip on my shoulder. I am here to talk MMA, but I'm not going to be talked down to, or insulted and just take it.

I know that fucks with some of the fragile egos around here, and that's fine by me. I'll go grab my troll suit, and we can rock out with our cocks out.

[MYboyBISPING]

Randy know that they are going down so why stick with a company that is uncertain of its future. Go UFC! Comon Fedor!

[jasonIndiana]

[QUOTE=Ubermensch;539288]Not true they had to compete with Pride at the time Zuffa bought them. Shooto and Pancrase before that.
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Pride wasnt in amercia like affliction is.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by MYboyBISPING

Randy know that they are going down so why stick with a company that is uncertain of its future. Go UFC! Comon Fedor!

I have to think Randy is more concerned with the fact that he's RIIIIIIIIIGHT at the twighlight of his career, and the UFC could drag his battle out for years. All the while he has to throw money at the lawyers. It's a losing cause. he had nothing to begin with, and was just hoping they'd let him out.

[beardown98]

bermensch The UFC did not have to compete with anything in the U.S. that was superior to it at the time it had to compete with the image it had already made for it self and had to change peoples opinions.

Affliction is trying to grab market share from one the biggest company going right now. Its like a new company trying to compete with walmart all the while walmart is trying to put them out of business its gonna be an uphill battle where 8 out of 10 who try to take on the big boys will fail

I hope it is not the case and i did get the last affliction PPV. I hope to get others as well. as long as they are worth it.

i have watched the ufc go from blood sport to just a sport and its been great but i loved Pride even more. It was a great mix of showmanship and great fights (something about the ring compared to cage helped to). I hope affliction can make it i would love to see them compete with the ufc

[crosshearttat]

Originally Posted by hunterkiller

With the Fedor-Randy fight all but dead under their banner Affliction needs to step up their offer for Tito and make a push to get some other fighters that are known on their cards. Like him or not as a fighter, he will sell PPVS.

They need to show they are sustainable so they can make an attempt at a television deal.

They will live or die by a television deal.

I think the general thought is that Tito's past his prime so that might make Affliction actually look bad to diehard fans.
As far as Affliction, I think they can do it if they continue bringing in big names as they don't have to start the sport or build anyone up like the UFC had to do.

[notrightn0w]

at least the tees are still selling.

[maxp84z]

Originally Posted by STruC1x

I'm a big MMA fan, and UFC fan since 1993.

UFC cage and rules are the BEST for this sport.

The ring and some tweaked Affliction rules kinda made me think it's like second grade show.

WTF are you talking about? PRIDE had the best rules suited for the sport of MMA. 10 minute first round, soccer kicks/stomps and knees to the head.... I HATE the watered down UFC rules. I do agree that the cage is better for MMA tho.

[JoeSons BruisedNuts]

Originally Posted by Duskseyr

I fail to see where standing up for myself, and not being a sheep, is me having a chip on my shoulder. I am here to talk MMA, but I'm not going to be talked down to, or insulted and just take it.

I know that fucks with some of the fragile egos around here, and that's fine by me. I'll go grab my troll suit, and we can rock out with our cocks out.

I'll be your huckleberry.

You sit here and blast people for bitching and crying by.......bitchin and crying.

Now I would "rock out with my my cock out" right about now, but I cant ever seem to get mine out your mothers mouth.