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09-23-2008, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by smoogy  Overeem was certainly cutting a huge amount of weight to make it to 205, though he was a bit lankier a few years back. He said it did affect his stamina, and looking at how he has turned into this gigantic heavyweight wrecking machine I would have to believe it.
As for the DREAM belt, maybe they should do Overeem vs. Kharitonov III | I believe this is more likely the Case he is Strikeforce Champ and I haven't seen him even come close to getting winded like he use too. I think all that cutting hampered his fighting ability and now we get to see the real Overeem.
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09-23-2008, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ubermensch I believe this is more likely the Case he is Strikeforce Champ and I haven't seen him even come close to getting winded like he use too. I think all that cutting hampered his fighting ability and now we get to see the real Overeem. | Yeah, that'll be nice. Alistair is a great fighter. I look forward to seeing him break the HW Top10.
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09-23-2008, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gurry yeah he has, ATJ is right. When allistair fought buentello at strikeforce in California. Which means the CSAC tested him. | He also weighed in at 224 for that fight. Which is 20lbs lighter than where he was in Japan. I guess it is possible that he has just bulked up a lot since then, but I don't think it is out of the question to suspect roids.
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09-23-2008, 08:47 PM
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what bothers me is that eh could rock the Thor hammer way harder now and doesn't.
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09-23-2008, 09:41 PM
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I just watched the fight.... Overeem looked like a monster.
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09-23-2008, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jukon Yeah, that'll be nice. Alistair is a great fighter. I look forward to seeing him break the HW Top10. | IMO he is top ten. I would like to see him break top 5 if even possible. I like him much better than Barnett and he seems to be a mainstay in the top 5.
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09-23-2008, 11:44 PM
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Another thing's not everyone cuts the same (is capable of I mean). Someone at 250lbs might be built in such a way (muscle, fat, bone ratios, etc), and have such metabolism that he can shed 20% of his body weight whereas a 235 pounder may be only capable of dropping 20lbs without substantial adverse side effects. So don't think that just because one person is heavier than the other NOW means that it can never be reversed in the future. Some fighters have a larger range that's all.
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09-23-2008, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Canes He also weighed in at 224 for that fight. Which is 20lbs lighter than where he was in Japan. I guess it is possible that he has just bulked up a lot since then, but I don't think it is out of the question to suspect roids. | and that fight i believe was almost a year ago
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09-24-2008, 03:48 AM
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I want CC to cut to 205 
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09-24-2008, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisAM Overeem looks to be juicin, just my opinion, but he was a scrawny LHW if I can remember, now he's all "Hulk Smash"
Cro Cop definatly needs to get his game together, regardless oh the ball shots. | That's statements not accurate at all. Overeem was never a scrawny LHW. He was always big and cut up, and in my opinion, always looked like he cut way too much weight and was too dried out in his fights. He has always had a big frame and looked like like he had the ability to build muscle fast (my brother can do the same thing when he is not cutting weight for wrestling), and now that he does not have to cut drastic weight, the weight and muscle is getting packed on.
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