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[NixHex]

Originally Posted by Canes

He also weighed in at 224 for that fight. Which is 20lbs lighter than where he was in Japan. I guess it is possible that he has just bulked up a lot since then, but I don't think it is out of the question to suspect roids.

1. As Dork said that was a while ago.

2. As Smoogy said, Overeem now works extensively on strength training.

3. I read an interview a few weeks ago (sorry, no link) that said Cro Cop was going to weigh in around 215-218 for this fight, so that'd put Overeem around 235-238.

All in all, Overeem gained between 11-14 pounds after a year of extensive weight training for a professional athlete w/ a large frame. I think it is extremely unfair to accuse him of steroids, if he were to be a steroid user don't you think he would have been using EPO at LHW instead of gassing every fight?

[Duskseyr]

Overeem looked excellent in that fight, because he wasn't being smashed in the face. I know I'm not the only one that's noticed how little heart he and his brother have when it comes down to withstanding an ass whooping.

The nut shots were are huge factor as the fight progressed, but Mirko has nobody to blame but himself for those. Crop Cop chose the wrong game plan and he paid for it. He should of come out strong, put some shots into Overeem's face and watched him crumble.

[Supe]

After college i put on close to twenty pounds in a year. It was all natural with no steroids or HGH. So its not really that hard to do if you work at it. For me, what worked best was Taco Bell 3 times a week and between 10-15 Guinness a night. Worked like a charm.

[notrightn0w]

Some of the posts I've read here have actually helped answer my questions. Applying some basic mathematical estimation and a few things I've seen I can assume Most 205ers walk around at about 220, some guys drop a massive amount of weight. Judging from Overeem's size and gas issues I'm assuming he was one of them. So I'll go with 230-240 as an estimation.

Some Hws, who aren't at coming in at 265, cut an average of 10-15 lbs anyways during training. So his weighing in at 224lbs against Buentello would probably mean he was 235-240 and only cut the ten if anything at all. So still in the walking weight region I had guessed.

According to the weigh-in results this was the difference: Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic (225.9) vs. Alistair Overeem (241.8). Assuming he gained 20 lbs in shear muscle mass, he'd be cutting from 250-260, again if cutting at all.

I just gave a new meaning to MMAth


(DREAM.6 Weigh-In Results)

Honestly, I managed to gain 20 lbs of muscle of muscle in 3 months once. So I guess it would make sense that over the span of a year Overeem can put on so much weight.

I hadn't really thought about the difference from Overeem at 205 to now until Bas got in my head. I haven't really seen him gas so I think it must've been weighty issues that affected his tank before.

[Canes]

Originally Posted by NixHex

1. As Dork said that was a while ago.

2. As Smoogy said, Overeem now works extensively on strength training.

3. I read an interview a few weeks ago (sorry, no link) that said Cro Cop was going to weigh in around 215-218 for this fight, so that'd put Overeem around 235-238.

All in all, Overeem gained between 11-14 pounds after a year of extensive weight training for a professional athlete w/ a large frame. I think it is extremely unfair to accuse him of steroids, if he were to be a steroid user don't you think he would have been using EPO at LHW instead of gassing every fight?

Overeem weighed in at 242. I never said that he was on steroids. I was responding to the person who said that he was drug tested in Strikeforce because he didn't start putting on massive amounts of weight until he went back to Japan.

Since he returned to Japan at Dream 4 he has been fighting at 240+. I don't think it is that out of the question to think that a 205'er who was fighting at 224 in the States, might be on steroids whenever he shows up at 240lbs of sheer muscle in an organization where they don't drug test. He was overpowering Hunt and threw Cro Cop to floor with ease.

[Monsterman]

Originally Posted by notrightn0w

Some of the posts I've read here have actually helped answer my questions. Applying some basic mathematical estimation and a few things I've seen I can assume Most 205ers walk around at about 220, some guys drop a massive amount of weight. Judging from Overeem's size and gas issues I'm assuming he was one of them. So I'll go with 230-240 as an estimation.

Some Hws, who aren't at coming in at 265, cut an average of 10-15 lbs anyways during training. So his weighing in at 224lbs against Buentello would probably mean he was 235-240 and only cut the ten if anything at all. So still in the walking weight region I had guessed.

According to the weigh-in results this was the difference: Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic (225.9) vs. Alistair Overeem (241.8). Assuming he gained 20 lbs in shear muscle mass, he'd be cutting from 250-260, again if cutting at all.

I just gave a new meaning to MMAth




(DREAM.6 Weigh-In Results)

Honestly, I managed to gain 20 lbs of muscle of muscle in 3 months once. So I guess it would make sense that over the span of a year Overeem can put on so much weight.

I hadn't really thought about the difference from Overeem at 205 to now until Bas got in my head. I haven't really seen him gas so I think it must've been weighty issues that affected his tank before.

You´re mixing cutting and loosing weight. No HW is going to cut weight if they are under 265.

I used to be lean 190 and got up to 220 in under 6 months when started eating enough. Overeem was huge for LHW so that weight probably came quite easily when he didn´t have to worry about making 205 anymore. It´s not your muscles just getting bigger but you also have more carbs, fat and liquid in your body.

[ScottS]

[QUOTE=Duskseyr;546628]The nut shots were are huge factor as the fight progressed, but Mirko has nobody to blame but himself for those. /QUOTE]


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