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10-29-2008, 02:52 AM
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its going to be a tough one for randy, brock lesnar is a freak of nature have u seen his fucken lat muscles they are fucken huge. u can never count out randy i dont care who he is facing but this is a very tall task for him. i bet brock has been training submission defence non stop. the only chance randy has got is to get on top of him, but the chances of that happening are virtually impossible
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10-29-2008, 03:55 AM
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R.I.P. Randy Couture June 22, 1963 - November 15, 2008. Cause of Death getting run over by a 280 pound brick shit house. Randy you dreaming if you think you can handle brock. Everyone hella tough talkin bout Brock chest tattoo, yo girls be sayin nuthin if Brock be standed in front of you.
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10-29-2008, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE From MMAJunkie.com:
"...and use speed and mobility and those things as advantages for me." | I don't think Couture will have the speed advantage, or the mobility for that matter. Couture will really be relying on his experience and gameplan. I am sure that he has the tools to defeat Brock, but the vast size and strength difference his hard to ignore. I have all but given up on calling any match that Couture is participating in. Regardless of the outcome, I am sure this will be a great match.
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10-29-2008, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tp1145 LOL who has he taken down? You cant find many people as big as brock. | I remember in the very early UFC he beat some guys that were probably bigger than Brock but were not even close in skill level.
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10-29-2008, 07:54 AM
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Unless I am forgetting someone, Randy has never submitted someone off his back has he?
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10-29-2008, 08:33 AM
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Alright, it's time to stop riding Lesnar's chest penis. Yes, I understand his size and strength. Yes, I understand his potential. But honestly, what the fuck has he done to this point? Beat Heath Herring by decision? Is THAT what has inspired all of this Lesner testical gargling? Heath Herring who is 2-3 in his 5 fights in the octagon. His 2 wins coming via lay and pray split-decisions over Cheick Kongo and Brad “The Hillbilly Heartthrob” Imes?!
Brock has had THREE professional fights! In which he is 2-1! Couture has come up with game-plans to beat far better and more experienced fighters: Tito, Belfort, Liddell, and Sylvia to name a few. To think he can’t come up with something new to show Lesner is pretty naïve.
If Lesner does come up with a win against Randy, he should just go ahead and tap at the post-fight press conference for his fight against Mir or Nog. Mir submitted him in the first round, and if he can’t handle Mir’s BJJ, Nog will fold him in half in 30 seconds.
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10-29-2008, 08:39 AM
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I am thinking it will be hard to sub Brock from the ground ala Mir because Brock has changed his game. He doesn't even commit to the ground, as we saw in the herring fight. He just bends his knees a bit but still stays on his feet, rarely was he ever even in guard.
Also when I saw Randy on that 'Joes vs Pros' he admitted he has never been known as a submission guy and isn't very good at it. I think he is going to have a really hard time overcoming Brocks size.
Granted, he took on Silvia, but Brock straight up broke Herrings face with 1 punch, so it will be crazy to see what Randy does. I don't want to see him get hurt, so I hope he comes out guns blazing.
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10-29-2008, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyMoore Alright, it's time to stop riding Lesnar's chest penis. Yes, I understand his size and strength. Yes, I understand his potential. But honestly, what the fuck has he done to this point? Beat Heath Herring by decision? Is THAT what has inspired all of this Lesner testical gargling? Heath Herring who is 2-3 in his 5 fights in the octagon. His 2 wins coming via lay and pray split-decisions over Cheick Kongo and Brad “The Hillbilly Heartthrob” Imes?!
Brock has had THREE professional fights! In which he is 2-1! Couture has come up with game-plans to beat far better and more experienced fighters: Tito, Belfort, Liddell, and Sylvia to name a few. To think he can’t come up with something new to show Lesner is pretty naïve.
| Brock beat Herring worse than many other people have. Herring looked like he was 2 weightclasses below than Brock when he was trying to sweep him. Judging by this picture you can't tell me that Randy wont be in serious trouble if Brock puts him on his back. I don't see him sweeping him, or pulling a sub, that of course if Lesnar uses the conservative ground style he used against Herring (and he will)
That being said, I think if Randy gets Brock in the fence he can use judo trips to get Brock down, and if Brock is on his back and against the fence with Randy its a wrap.
Tough to call, but I'd bet for Brock on this one. And you're talking to a guy who bet on Randy against both Tim and Gonzaga so, it's not cock riding as you say, it's the old "styles make fights" thing.
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10-29-2008, 08:51 AM
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In my opinion Brock may not necessarily 'deserve' to be fighting Randy so soon, I will agree with that. With that said I do think that he has every possibility to destroy Randy. The HW division needs someone like Brock to come in and be a great fighter.
So lets stop trying to say that Brock isn't ready or not deserving, because the fact that Dana even put him there shows that he feels Brock is ready, and that the division needs him to be a top performer. And if Brock pulls out the win on this fight, everyone will have to shut up about him not having the credentials anymore. He's got credentials and when he wins that fight nobody will have any room to say this guy isn't a top HW.
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10-29-2008, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Unreal Brock beat Herring worse than many other people have. Herring looked like he was 2 weightclasses below than Brock when he was trying to sweep him. Judging by this picture you can't tell me that Randy wont be in serious trouble if Brock puts him on his back. I don't see him sweeping him, or pulling a sub, that of course if Lesnar uses the conservative ground style he used against Herring (and he will)
That being said, I think if Randy gets Brock in the fence he can use judo trips to get Brock down, and if Brock is on his back and against the fence with Randy its a wrap.
Tough to call, but I'd bet for Brock on this one. And you're talking to a guy who bet on Randy against both Tim and Gonzaga so, it's not cock riding as you say, it's the old "styles make fights" thing. | Fair enough. However, I'm hesitant to grant Lesner any specific style of fighting with only 3 professional fights under his belt, especially when he has used a different strategy in each of those fights. I’m even more doubtful he can rely on his novice style to overcome a veteran fighter like Randy's gameplan. I will grant you that any fighter on his back against Brock has serious problems, and I understand he could very well beat Couture. It’s the idea that Lesner can rely solely on his strength and size to overwhelm Randy that I implicitly reject.
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