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[jlruthven84]

IMO Penn can be very competitive at MW, maybe even win that belt. LHW, not so sure about.

[antdenman]

Is everyone seriously not interested in a Florian-Penn fight? I would love to see that fight. I think BJ is one of the best fighters fighting today. But I also think Florian would give him a run for his money. After that fight, BJ should stay at Welterweight.

[Repenter]

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

IMO Penn can be very competitive at MW, maybe even win that belt. LHW, not so sure about.

it's completely idiotic for penn to fight at LHW, but that's just the problem... is that this is the guy so proud that he gained 50 pounds to fight machida, and gave him a run for his money. who does that?

and MW, he could beat many of the big names, and i think he could beat anderson if he got him down.

[popsicle]

Originally Posted by antdenman

Is everyone seriously not interested in a Florian-Penn fight? I would love to see that fight. I think BJ is one of the best fighters fighting today. But I also think Florian would give him a run for his money. After that fight, BJ should stay at Welterweight.

I think Florian is one of the most underated lw's. In my opinon, he could easily be in most people's top ten, but a fight with Penn does not interest me. 9 out of 10 times BJ wins this fight. There are much more appealing and challenging matchups for him at welterweight. Let Sherk and Florian have another vacant title match up.

To answer the original question. If Penn loses to GSP I think he stays at lw until he loses the title. If he wins, he stays at ww. Only time will tell.

[smoogy]

Unless they put together something worthwhile like Alvarez vs. Penn, there isn't much point. Sorry, but Ken-Flo, Nate Diaz and whoever else people believe has a chance are not going to fare any better than Stevenson or Sherk.

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

I see GSP coming out on top of their fight, so I don't see why he wouldn't go back down. I used to be a big BJ supporter, but he really turned me off after his second bout with Hughes. Thoroughly enjoy his fights, but don't understand why so so many believe he's gonna wrest the title from GSP?

Not to shoot on BJ or anything, but why is he so favoured to win when he's been so unimpressive at that weight and GSP has been so impressive as of late? Just wondering?

[TN94z]

Originally Posted by antdenman

Is everyone seriously not interested in a Florian-Penn fight? I would love to see that fight. I think BJ is one of the best fighters fighting today. But I also think Florian would give him a run for his money. After that fight, BJ should stay at Welterweight.

I'm not really. I mean I don't think Florian will get by Stevenson much less have a good showing against BJ. I think BJ wins that fight easily.

I see GSP coming out on top of their fight, so I don't see why he wouldn't go back down. I used to be a big BJ supporter, but he really turned me off after his second bout with Hughes. Thoroughly enjoy his fights, but don't understand why so so many believe he's gonna wrest the title from GSP?

Not to shoot on BJ or anything, but why is he so favoured to win when he's been so unimpressive at that weight and GSP has been so impressive as of late? Just wondering?

All of the fights that BJ has had in the past at WW were when he says that he was not focused and his cardio consisted of going surfing and only surfing. Look at how well he did with a lack of focus. Now that he seems to be taking it serously and has greatly improved since then. I think he is more favored to win because he nearly beat GSP the last time when he wasn't close to the fighter that he is now. Yes, GSP has gotten better but BJ has too. And now that his cardio seems to be getting in check and his focus is there, he is much more dangerous now than he was back then. IMO GSP is more prone to making mistakes than BJ. GSP tries such high level strikes that it leaves less room for error. BJ has a much more patient and methodical style that has more room for error. Not to mention that BJ's chin has proven to be much better than GSPs. So, GSP won't KO him. GSP wins the wrestling, if he can get BJ down. But when he gets BJ down, then what? BJ definately has the advantage on the ground. And I think that BJ "scores" more on the feet. His standup may not be as flashy but he lands jab after jab after jab. That is just my 2 cents.

[Malice]

Originally Posted by smoogy

Unless they put together something worthwhile like Alvarez vs. Penn, there isn't much point. Sorry, but Ken-Flo, Nate Diaz and whoever else people believe has a chance are not going to fare any better than Stevenson or Sherk.

I agree, let's face it Ken-Flo isn't on the same tier as BJ Penn. I think Stevenson will beat Ken-Flo.

BJ is like Anderson Silva in a way, he needs to move up to lose an advatange and make it more competitive. He is just levels above the rest.

Now if UFC can get Aoki, Hansen, Alvarez or JZ then that would make sense for someone like BJ to fight. But Ken-Flo is a mildly interesting fight IMO.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre

Not to shoot on BJ or anything, but why is he so favoured to win when he's been so unimpressive at that weight and GSP has been so impressive as of late? Just wondering?

I'm not really sure how a freak injury in the second fight with Hughes [a Hughes at his peak, as well] and taking GSP to a highly controversial decision would be considered unimpressive, but you're welcome to your opinion, I guess.

Originally Posted by TN94z

All of the fights that BJ has had in the past at WW were when he says that he was not focused and his cardio consisted of going surfing and only surfing. Look at how well he did with a lack of focus. Now that he seems to be taking it serously and has greatly improved since then.

I feel obligated to point out that BJ's lack of focus has been a bigger issue than his cardio. People bag on his conditioning but overlook the fact he's gassed in exactly two fights, against Uno 5 years ago and against GSP...and that GSP was also gassed in that fight as well.

GSP/Penn is a great matchup, but I think Penn is strong where GSP has been traditionally weak, particularly striking. It will be interesting to see GSP fight a focused, elite striker and to see if his striking defense has improved. Against smaller fighters without a great game, he's been able to overcome a lack of striking defense with his overwhelming athleticism, by pushing the pace, by controlling the fight by mixing up his strikes, and with his sheer size/reach advantage. He'll still have size/reach on Penn, but I'm thinking Penn will take it standing. GSP has had great success against wrestlers as well, but none of them have had BJ's ground game. So time will tell.

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[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

Originally Posted by rivethead

I'm not really sure how a freak injury in the second fight with Hughes [a Hughes at his peak, as well] and taking GSP to a highly controversial decision would be considered unimpressive, but you're welcome to your opinion, I guess.

Those sound like excuses. A freak injury against a fighter at his peak and controversial decision are neither decisive victories for BJ at welter weight and I'm saying that I don't see why he's so favoured, when he got gased the last two times at that weight, lost the last two times at welter weight(not won, lost) and GSP seems to have only gotten a lot better since their prior encounter.

He never dominated at the welterweight division, or he would've stayed there, so why is he given so much respect, when he hasn't shown his talent in a long while at 170?

I mean he's going from Stevenson and Sherk to GSP? Seems like a big leap for a guy who hasn't even gone through a majority of his contenders at 155 and I don't know why?

You're entitled to your opinion too, I guess.