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11-12-2008, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Lykan Lesnar is Psychotic Sociopath in the cage... | You write that as though it's something to admire.
I'm more of a fan of actual skilled fighters, myself, but to each their own, I guess. He's certainly not going to end up on anyone's p4p lists any time soon, unless they have no idea what they're talking about.
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11-12-2008, 11:25 AM
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IMO Brock in the future is gonna devestate but skill wise and experience wise hes no where near randy which is gonna make all the difference.. Brock is big and strong but size means very little in mma...he's only been training for a couple of years and thats gonna get compared to randys 10+ years of experience...I don't think so
I highly doubt that randy's age would even factor in because in his last two fights he had pretty good conditioning, and considering brock massive muscles -for sure hes gonna gas out after the 3rd round-no way he can feed those muscles with energy for that long
I think couture is gonna grind out the unanimous decision on this one..
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11-12-2008, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NCBA I will sig bet anyone that Brock smashes randy. | ill take that bet with you any day
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11-12-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lykan You mean a 45 year old who has not fought in well over a year? No, I don't think so.
Tim Sylvia, come on that guy is joke.
Gabe Gonzaga, his one kick wonder did nothing for him.
Something horrible might happen on Saturday, imagine is Lesnar accidently kills Randy, it could happen, Lesnar is Psychotic Sociopath in the cage... |
Tim Sylvia=more all around skilled MMA fighter than Brock and I don't even like Timmy.
Gabe Gonzaga=more all around skilled MMA fighter than Brock. and I think Gabe is mediocre.
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11-12-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by fishy IMO Brock in the future is gonna devestate but skill wise and experience wise hes no where near randy which is gonna make all the difference.. Brock is big and strong but size means very little in mma...he's only been training for a couple of years and thats gonna get compared to randys 10+ years of experience...I don't think so
I highly doubt that randy's age would even factor in because in his last two fights he had pretty good conditioning, and considering brock massive muscles -for sure hes gonna gas out after the 3rd round-no way he can feed those muscles with energy for that long
I think couture is gonna grind out the unanimous decision on this one.. | Just watch the fight, but what do you think Randy's strategy will be? To stand and trade? Wrestle? LOL, Randy is probably going to go for Brock's nose to to break it and me him uncomfortable. You think Randy is goint to "side control" Brock? LOL, how about mount him? LOL, I mean seriously what is randy going to do? Maybe he'll be "Elusive" like Mr. Borefest Machida, and even then, Brock is gonna rush him!
On a personal note, I hope Brock bear hugs him and crushes his lungs.
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11-12-2008, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fishy IMO Brock in the future is gonna devestate but skill wise and experience wise hes no where near randy which is gonna make all the difference.. Brock is big and strong but size means very little in mma...he's only been training for a couple of years and thats gonna get compared to randys 10+ years of experience...I don't think so
I highly doubt that randy's age would even factor in because in his last two fights he had pretty good conditioning, and considering brock massive muscles -for sure hes gonna gas out after the 3rd round-no way he can feed those muscles with energy for that long
I think couture is gonna grind out the unanimous decision on this one.. | If size didn't matter they wouldn't have weight classes, age is a factor your reflexes are the fisrt to go thats a fact of life, and for the recored Brock is a superheavyweight.
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11-12-2008, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lykan Just watch the fight, but what do you think Randy's strategy will be? To stand and trade? Wrestle? LOL, Randy is probably going to go for Brock's nose to to break it and me him uncomfortable. You think Randy is goint to "side control" Brock? LOL, how about mount him? LOL, I mean seriously what is randy going to do? Maybe he'll be "Elusive" like Mr. Borefest Machida, and even then, Brock is gonna rush him!
On a personal note, I hope Brock bear hugs him and crushes his lungs. |
I think this is just ridiculous. What is Randy going to do? Come on man. Just because Brock is big and strong means nothing. Randy WILL impose his will in one way or another. I mean Randy's wrestling record is better than Brock's so other than size and strength, Brock has nothing on Randy. On the flip side, Brock won't control Randy either so what is Brock going to do? Randy has a much better sub game than Brock does guaranteed!!! Borefest Machida???? I seem to forget...what is Machida's record again? Quote:
Originally Posted by Qball1974 If size didn't matter they wouldn't have weight classes, age is a factor your reflexes are the fisrt to go thats a fact of life, and for the recored Brock is a superheavyweight. | Size matters when you have a LW fighting a HW. but when you have a guy that is only 30-50lbs smaller, but has the technique to neutralize that, then no size doesn't matter as much. I can see the size hurting more in the long run. Randy's reflexes were fine his last fight if not better. His head movement was better then than it has ever been. I mean its not like he has been sitting on the couch eating chips this whole time. The guy runs a school where he trains guys everyday. His reflexes won't be that bad.
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11-12-2008, 11:59 AM
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^^ I wouldn't get too worked up about him...he's a troll who obviously prefers genetic freaks to fights that showcase skill.
rh
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11-12-2008, 12:09 PM
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For the record, I honestly don't know who to pick in this as Randy's experience and (far) more technical fighting style bring up some interesting questions for brock, and brock's wrestling ability and sheer size bring up some interesting questions for Randy. Gun to my head i say randy, but there isn't one, and I'm certainly not betting on this fight.
I hear everyone talking about Brock's cardio, and I wonder where this comes from, yes, he's huge, but after the herring fight he looked like he was still ready to go. I mean, he wasn't even really winded. I know five rounds is far more than two, but at the same time it's not like cardio's ever been an issue for him (granted his first two fights didn't last out of the first round)
I also hear everyone talking about Randy's age, and his reflexes, yet those same people talk about Brock being a genetic freak and this that and everything else. Has anyone considered that Brock won't be the only genetic freak in there? Randy has gotten better over the years, and he hasn't stopped. Perhaps in addition to having a heart the size of alaska, and being a very hard worker, he is genetically gifted in such a way that he hasn't slowed down at the same age as people typically do?
I personally think their wrestling cancels each other, or if anything would give a slight edge to brock, simply because of size.
I think striking is about the same (only because of brock's reach being deceptive, and measuring for that is very difficult) although in this case i'd give the edge to Randy
Submissions are the only clear difference I see, while Randy isn't known for pulling out flying arm bars or anything, he's got Brock on this one, and I think ultimately this is going to make the difference. Randy is a master game planner, and will find and exploit every mistake Lesnar makes.
So the question for Brock is this: How much sub defense have you worked? It'd better be a lot, because if he does get past Randy I would still pick either mir or nog over lesnar without question.
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11-12-2008, 12:15 PM
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Fuck Brock Lesnar I will be rooting for Randy so bad
I really think that Brock is going to have a hard time getting a hold and holding on to Randy. I think Randy will avoid most Td's and beat brock up standing with trading and some dirty boxing...and Randy will eventually take Brock down and unleash a beating...winning by a 3rd rd tko...
hell, who knows, we might even see Randy smash Brocks ugly face with a huge knee.
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