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11-13-2008, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rivethead I didn't say it didn't take athleticism...I said it wasn't a sport, it was entertainment.
There is a huge difference. Sports are competition, where two athletes compete to see who is the better athlete. Entertainment is where entertainers [sometimes athletes, sometimes not] put on a show.
Ballet dancers are athletic, but ballet isn't a sport. Ballet dancers have great cardio, and they work hard, day in and day out; putting in a shitload of hard work to entertain their audience. But ballet shouldn't be compared to MMA, and neither should professional wrestling.
You're right about me coming off as a dick though. I'll try to rein that in for the future.
In the future, if you could remember to end the quote format with | it would be cool.
You should look up the definition of "sport" Mr I know everything.
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11-13-2008, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Qball1974 it would be cool.
You should look up the definition of "sport" Mr I know everything. | Not sure what you're getting at...are you trying to say that professional wrestling, such as the WWE is actually a sport?
Maybe by some wikipedia definition, you'll be able to squeeze it in there, but I'm sure ballet, and throwing darts in a bar, and knitting sweaters would also fit.
maybe I should have been more specific and said "a real" sport...or "a actual, competative" sport.
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11-13-2008, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by thekev1130 You can brag all you want when you're the guy that closed it. |
You can brag about closing it. But when people want to comment on how Brock controlled Herring the whole time and basically did anything he wanted to herring....of course he did. Herring had one eye to see out of. What HW would not have controlled that fight. I would be willing to bet that Brock would not have lasted that long if the roles were reversed.
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11-13-2008, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Qball1974 You should look up the definition of "sport" Mr I know everything. | How is it a sport, it is scripted and the outcome is predetermined, the performers are not even trying to win, it's more like a sitcom than a sport. I wouldn't even compare it to a reality show, because it's in no way reality.
I don't mean any disrespect to pro wrestling, and I sure as hell couldn't cut it in the biz, but let's call it what it is.
The pro wrestling promos don't even call it a sport, they call it "sports entertainment", I imagine they do this because they know trying to pass it of as a "sports" program would be blatant fraud.
I realize how rough pro wrestling is, I know they beat the shit out of each other, but at the end of the day, IT IS NOT A COMPETITION. |
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11-13-2008, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TN94z You can brag about closing it. But when people want to comment on how Brock controlled Herring the whole time and basically did anything he wanted to herring....of course he did. Herring had one eye to see out of. What HW would not have controlled that fight. I would be willing to bet that Brock would not have lasted that long if the roles were reversed. | I don't know about that. Brock controlled him on the ground and who knows if Herring would have done better if he had two eyes to see out of. I don't know if it would have changed as Brock's ability control is evident from his amateur wrestling days.
Maybe it broke Herring a little more physically having to deal with that injury so early in the fight but you can't take it away from Brock that he's the one who did that to Herring. Look at how people say Randy destroyed GG. GG broke mentally and physically (by his inability to breathe) when he got his nose broken so early in the fight. Atleast Brock actually meant to land and do damage... do you think Randy planned for GG's knees to swing back and break his own nose while Randy was slamming him? I don't think so, yet no one takes that away from Randy right?
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11-13-2008, 08:29 AM
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I am not taking away the fact that he won the fight or that he broke Herring's nose. I am posting that because that has been brought up as a comparison to Brock controlling Randy. They are two totally different fighters. Just because Brock beat a non-top 10 one eyed Herring means nothing in the fight against Randy. I agree that Brock did all of those things and I am not taking that away. I am simply stating that once Herring's orbital bone was broke and he couldn't see out of that eye, it made Brock's job a hell of a lot easier. i think the fight would have been tougher had Herring's eye not been in that condition. I am not saying that Herring would have won. But I think both physically and mentally Herring was pretty much done after that shot and it just hard for me to use the rest of the fight as a comparison to what Brock can do against Randy.
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11-13-2008, 10:29 AM
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I think Brock would have had a better chance at this if it was an earlier fight. His overwhelming flurry against mir would not have ended in a sub if it had been Randy. I think he is going to be careful and more calculating in this fight and that is going to cost him. He doesn't seem to have a good finish game yet, and his best bet would be to go balls out and get a stoppage early.
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