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12-31-2008, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead  CC has repeatedly said he wants the rematch. DREAM doesn't want it.
rh | Rivet... that point must have been explained 1,000,000,000 times.... people seem to be blind to that fact.
DREAM doesn't care about the match... there is no hype for it in Japan.... they might put it on at a later date. DREAM officials have publicly said they didn't want the match for NYE.
Cro Cop wants it. Overeem wants it, but wants to act like Cro Cop doesn't for some "cool points". DREAM doesn't want it.
It is really that simple.
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12-31-2008, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by valheruking I love Mark Hunt but Melvin is one of my favourites and seeing him stop Hunt just reminds you (in case you didn't already know lol) that he's as dangerous a striker as you get when he's on form.
It was a 50/50 night for Mikes gym, win for Melvin, loss for Badr. | Manhoef is a f$#king beast!! Imagine if he had a ground game?
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12-31-2008, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Badluck_33 only problem i have with him is his freakish size. ......... Supplements? | He became a beast, he looks like he's on supplements so if he did come to the ufc expect him to be much smaller than what you saw in this fight....
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12-31-2008, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fishy He became a beast, he looks like he's on supplements so if he did come to the ufc expect him to be much smaller than what you saw in this fight.... | Allot of fighters take supplements, are you accusing Manhoef of using Steroids? As far as I know he is not juicing, Juice or not that doesn't give you that kind of power.
People really need to research what steroids really do, Forrest could take all the steroids in the world he will never have the power of Manhoef.
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12-31-2008, 04:14 PM
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They were talking about Overeem's additional bulk, established in a fairly short period of time.
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12-31-2008, 04:25 PM
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Overeem looked insanely big compared to his normal size.
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Originally Posted by Badluck_33 Oh, my god?!
Any one see the Overeem/Badr fight?
Overeem looks HUGE! Probably the biggest I have ever seen him. The 1st Knock down by Overeem looked great and the KO was excellent.
If I were the UFC, I would take a nice good look at Overeem. He would be a GREAT addition to the UFC HW division. He reminds me of how CroCop used to fight. Speaking of which, I would not want to fight Overeem either if i were CroCop.
I was never an Overeem fan til this fight, all i have to say is "wow" to how he has progressed. I can see him breaking top ten rankings real soon if he keeps this up....
only problem i have with him is his freakish size. ......... Supplements?
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Duker Someone on another post said that he weighed in at 253 pounds. I don't know if that's true or what, but if it is it would surely raise suspicions with me. Wasn't this guy fighting at 205 fairly recently (i.e. within the past two years or so)? To go from 205 to a ripped 253 seems a bit questionable. It might also explain the recent improvement in his performances... Obviously, unless and until there's a positive test, we won't be able to say for sure, but it's something to think about. | Quote:
Originally Posted by fishy He became a beast, he looks like he's on supplements so if he did come to the ufc expect him to be much smaller than what you saw in this fight.... | He used to cut a shit-load of weight to get down to 205 & he used to gas really early because of it.Alistair is about 6 foot 5 & has always had a body builder type upper body,even if you go back to his early european rings fights.Check out his brother Valetijn who is also a big muscle-bound lad & has always fought at HW,so unless they've been juicing consistently for the last 8-9 years or so I would put it down to genetics.
His last 3 mma fights have been at HW which suits his body type much better which may explain his improved stamina & performances.BTW hes not anywhere near as ripped looking as he was when he fought at 205,granted he looks bigger now but its been a while since he fought at LHW & even if he were on said suppliments,dont count on a positive roid test coming out of japan.Those japanese fight orgs dont let little details like that get in the way of putting a good show.
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01-01-2009, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Malevolence He used to cut a shit-load of weight to get down to 205 & he used to gas really early because of it.Alistair is about 6 foot 5 & has always had a body builder type upper body,even if you go back to his early european rings fights.Check out his brother Valetijn who is also a big muscle-bound lad & has always fought at HW,so unless they've been juicing consistently for the last 8-9 years or so I would put it down to genetics.
His last 3 mma fights have been at HW which suits his body type much better which may explain his improved stamina & performances. | Bulky muscle usually equals less stamina, not more. It is a matter of what the muscle needs in terms of of blood flow and oxygen.
I'm not accusing Alistair, I am simply stating a fact.
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Today an official weigh-in procedure was held in Tokii, Japan. FEG put all its stars for the year-ending megashow. Check the results of the weigh-ins.
19. Main-Event: DREAM-Rule (84.0kg):
Kazushi Sakuraba 82.7kg vs. Kiyoshi Tamura 83.6kg
18: DREAM-Rule (70.0kg):
Joachim Hansen 69.3kg vs. Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante 70.0kg
17: DREAM-Rule (70.0kg):
Shinya Aoki 69.9kg vs. Eddie Alvarez 69.2kg
16. DREAM-Rule (+93.1):
Mark Hunt 130.4kg vs. Jerome Lebanner (LeBanner didn't show up, rumor has it he's got some lung infection but since this bout is held in open weight, his absence at the weigh-ins shouldn't be a problem if he's not ill)
15. K-1-Rule (Open):
Gegard Mousasi 97.8kg vs. Musashi 103.8
14. DREAM-Rule (+93.1kg):
Mirko "CroCop" Filipovic vs. Hong Man Choi 148.5
13. K-1 Rule (open):
Alistair Overeem 115.2kg (253 lb )vs. Badr Hari
12. K-1-Rule (70.0kg):
Tatsuya Kawajiri 70.0kg vs. Kozo Takeda 69.9kg
11. DREAM-Rule (80.0kg):
Hayato "Mach" Sakurai 79.7kg vs. Katsuyori Shibata 79.8kg
10. DREAM-Rule (+93.1kg):
Semmy Schilt 129.6kg vs. Mighty Mo 136.6kg
9. DREAM-Rule (+93.1):
Bob Sapp vs. Kinniku Mantaro 102.3kg
Weigh In Results for Strikeforce Tournament
by Bodog Beat News Ticker | November 15th, 2007
Official Weigh-In Results for Strikeforce
Nov. 16, San Jose, CA
Yuki Sasaki (183.75) vs. Jorge Santiago (184.0)
Falaniko Vitale (185) vs. Trevor Prangley (185)
Dennis Hallman (183) vs. Sean Salmon (185.0)
Sam Morgan (177.75) vs. Cung Le (181)
Alistar Overeem (224) vs. Paul Buentello (250)
Brian Schwartz (167) vs. Lemont Davis (171)
Anthony Ruiz (204) vs. Bobby Southworth (204)
Bryson Kamaka (169) vs. Luke Stewart (171)
Josh Neal (186) vs. Eric Lawson (184)
Pete Sabala (137) vs. Anthony Figueroa (132)
Alex Crispin (155.5) vs. Clint Colonel (154.75)
Chris Drumm (145.4) vs. Eben Esguerra (145)
adding 30lbs over a 12 month period naturally is not impossible especially for a frame like overeems.
i am not aware if there was test after the buentelo fight.
untill he tests positive he's clean as far as i am concerned.
it seems that people are punished for living a healthy lifestyle by being called roiders at every turn.
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Originally Posted by Ramma Bulky muscle usually equals less stamina, not more. It is a matter of what the muscle needs in terms of of blood flow and oxygen.
I'm not accusing Alistair, I am simply stating a fact. | But he doesn´t have to cut weight anymore so he could have a lot more stamina even with the added muscle.
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