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Old 11-02-2006, 01:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Being a veteran alone isn't enough to be champion, IMO. Exactely, this isn't any of those orgs. and if Strikeforce wants to compete with those organizations, they should wait until they have legit contenders on their roster before awarding title shots.

I mean, how serious would you take any organization that has Southworth vs. White for what, I assume, would be called a "world title?"
so you would take NO CHAMPION over Vernon White as champ?
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so you would take NO CHAMPION over Vernon White as champ?
yes. they'd be better off building a division first and letting a champion come from that.
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yes. they'd be better off building a division first and letting a champion come from that.
they still need to establish a title...so even though it doesn't make any sense at all, one of these guys as champion is better then none at all.
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they still need to establish a title...so even though it doesn't make any sense at all, one of these guys as champion is better then none at all.
Why? You guys keep saying that having a lackluster champ is better, but why? Strikeforce would be better off following the PRIDE model as far as crowning champions. They built their organization by putting on top fights with top fighters long before they crowned champions. Look how long it took them to crown lightweight and welterweight champs over there. Strikeforce has no LHW division and no legit contenders. The only possible legit contender would be Overeem after his win over Belfort.
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Why? You guys keep saying that having a lackluster champ is better, but why? Strikeforce would be better off following the PRIDE model as far as crowning champions. They built their organization by putting on top fights with top fighters long before they crowned champions. Look how long it took them to crown lightweight and welterweight champs over there. Strikeforce has no LHW division and no legit contenders. The only possible legit contender would be Overeem after his win over Belfort.
why is Overeem a possible legit contender? hes a Top 10 LHW

if Overeem is still in Strikeforce he should be champ, period.
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Why? You guys keep saying that having a lackluster champ is better, but why? Strikeforce would be better off following the PRIDE model as far as crowning champions. They built their organization by putting on top fights with top fighters long before they crowned champions. Look how long it took them to crown lightweight and welterweight champs over there. Strikeforce has no LHW division and no legit contenders. The only possible legit contender would be Overeem after his win over Belfort.
PRIDE's way of developing champs is crap! their champions never defend their damn belts...how do you consider that a great way of building champs? i understand Fedor was hurt and all, but he should have been stripped. but im not biased, so same goes for Franklin, should have been stripped. but that doesnt matter cuz he lost anyways. lol
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