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[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by AJL416AZ

what did he do to Kareem?

i have all the Bruce movies, but i do not feel like watching the shitty replacement actor in Game of Death for like 2 hours to find out what move he used

He used a side choke, NOT A HEAD LOCK!

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by kowarrior

Just a basic headlock choke. Similar to how Coleman finished Severn in their UFC fight many years back.

Accually it was very different. It's called a side choke, and is simular to a rear naked choke. What Coleman did is called a neck crank.

[kowarrior]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Accually it was very different. It's called a side choke, and is simular to a rear naked choke. What Coleman did is called a neck crank.

Thanks for the correction.

[kowarrior]

This is the first choke attempt Bruce applied on Kareem. Kareem escaped.

[kowarrior]

Originally Posted by fe4tw

Watch the beginning of Enter the Dragon, Bruce Lee taps out Sammo Hung. Granted he used some kind of wacky submission that you would probably see in pro wrestling, but he used a submission. I believe he also armbarred Sammo but he escaped? Not sure on that last part.

Bruce didn't use submission in his movies because audiences knew nothing of submission or grappling. Therefore he couldn't really apply it to the silver screen. He learned alot of his wrestling from Gene LeBell.

[bigaxel123]

Okay folks, thread has officially changed to who wants to hang off bruce lee's nuts more. lol j/k

[kowarrior]

Originally Posted by bigaxel123

Okay folks, thread has officially changed to who wants to hang off bruce lee's nuts more. lol j/k

Ok then, back on topic, Who do you think was the most influential person in the development of Modern MMA, bigaxel?

[johnny Boom]

There's way too many martial artists who helped shape mma into what it is today to pin point exactly who was the most influiance. All of us have our own opinion on who so it's kind of pointless to try and figure out who it is.

[Cromm]

Well actually for me at least it was to attempt to get more information. Alot of people over time have helped improve Martial Arts, but w/ MMA we get to see what is theoreticaly effective and what gets your arm broken. The reason I said Count Kuma was due to the fact that he taught traditional styles to non Japanese, and they in turn made the adjustments to bring us some of the most effective Martail Arts practised today. Sambo was Judo mixed w/ regional wrestling styles. BJJ was basically small man Judo when originaly adapted. Bruce Lee said if you took someone who studied 12 months in Wrestling, and Boxing he would beat a conventional 10 yr student of Kung Fu.... I believe several of the posters study more traditional styles, do you disagree?

[Masscore]

Maybe its just me, but this seems obvouis. The Gracie Family. Until UFC 1, most people in the world saw fighting as one thing, a stand up brawl between two people, or some Kung Fu fight. Usaully with the bigger guy wining the fight. Then one day the Gracies came along and changed everything everyone though they knew about the fight game. Suddenly you have this scrawny Brazilian guy, who wasn't even the best one in the family, submitting guys like Shamrock, Kimo, and Severn. Guys you would think would smash his face in. To this day, almost every great fighter has some background in submissions, or at least knows how to defend them.

But I dont know, maybe it just me. But The Gracie family seem to be the obvouis choice.