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[thumper]

Really? being gay is a choice? I think there are hundreds or even thousands of reports and books that would find that incorrect. I don't think it's a choice at all. Just like it's not a choice that you like women. I think, and it's widely believed now that sexual preference is hard wired in your brain, not something you choose, like diet coke or regular coke

But really, it doesn't matter anyway. Anyone excusing it is simply not looking at it from a public perspective. This is why Dana does damage to the UFC. Thankfully this time it will damage him, because he wasn't speaking as 'the ufc' but was personal. So it won't affect the UFC, just the right person

[U shut ur FACE]

Originally Posted by scarhead26

well with that in perspective i would knock the d-bags head off. being gay is a choice. and a sick one at that. being crippled is not a choice.

Holy shit you're an idiot. Being gay is something that occurs in nature, it's an orientation not a conscious choice, that's not how "attraction" works lol you don't make a decision who you will be attracted to, your nature does that for you.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by shamrock23

Seems like anything you say these days offend someone. People need to toughen up and get their feelings off their sleeve.

So dana should take your advice, right? I mean, getting all offended and throwing a tantrum isn't exactly toughening up, right?

Originally Posted by themmabooker

They are running it together, Fertitas and Dana as a whole, Dana owns 10 percent, and while you think that may or not be alot, they run it all together, they are all the ultimate bosses of the company.

Actually, dana has referred to the Fertittas repeatedly as his bosses. That's why when dana fucks up, they step in to fix things. 10% does not eqate to an equal partnership.

Originally Posted by Witchdoctor

First off, I have a ton of respect for Dana, and I think he will go down as maybe the single most important man in the history of this sport. He was the right man for the job at the time. But on the other hand I think the time has come for him to take on a different role. They need someone far less abrasive/more polished to be the face of their management. You can't toss around words like faggot when you're in the spotlight. That is just asking for negative attention and this sport has already had it's fill of that.

I am very interested to see if they bring someone in, or just turn to Lorenzo.

I agree with everything except having a ton of respect for dana. But everything else is 100% accurate.

Originally Posted by themmabooker

Well, I don't think he will reduce his role, and even if he will, it's only for temporary. Dana does a great job with his role right now, though, obviously his rants have gotten the best of him, he needs to tone those down.

Nice how you skooted that one in, Tell me not they are all three the ultimate bosses, I don't need a chart to back that up at all.

dana's had two major fuck ups in the last six months, that's not doing a great job with his role. And again, dana works for the Fertittas...it's not three ultimate bosses.

Originally Posted by homegrowncone

The problem is that your jibberish is so incredibly nonsensical at times, it's difficult to respond to. You have such a loose grip on anything resembling actual knowledge of the sport that when you state your opinion, we honestly don't know whether or not to take you seriously.

The reason people like Thumper or myself constantly try and correct you isn't because we're assholes, it's because you are wrong all the time.

Actually I do run shit around here, and I agree with him. And yes, he has corrected you. And Thumper has corrected you. And I have corrected you, and other posters have corrected you.

You're just too stupid to realize it when you're wrong.

Originally Posted by homegrowncone

If it wasn't so fucking hilarious it would be frustrating, fortunately for the rest of us it's like a running gag that never gets old.

No, it's gotten old. I can assure you, it's gotten old.

Originally Posted by scarhead26

i agree here, im straight and in no way would i be offended if someone called me a straight guy, so if people dont want to be called fagots then they should rethink being gay. its obvious the people that are offened by this are not happy with themselves or their sexuality. if they were happy being fagots they wouldnt get so mad when being called that.

There is a power differential that you're completely missing.

Originally Posted by scarhead26

well with that in perspective i would knock the d-bags head off. being gay is a choice. and a sick one at that. being crippled is not a choice.

So...people would voluntarily "choose" to be discriminated against for their entire lives because being gay is so rewarding? They're just really stubborn, or they love negative attention?

It's not a choice, any more than you being deliberately obtuse and stupid is a choice.

Discrimination has no place on this forum.

rh

[thumper]

The good thing is this has happened early enough now that hopefully the fertitas can put a muzzle on dana and allow the UFC to appear as a professional company.

They do the best shows on the planet, have a ton of great fighters, production quality is top notch. Dana served his purpose that was needed up until a few years ago. thankfully we might see an end to his embarrassments.

[b1uef1ow]

Originally Posted by scarhead26

well with that in perspective i would knock the d-bags head off. being gay is a choice. and a sick one at that. being crippled is not a choice.

As RH and U shut UR FACE so perfectly illustrated being gay is not a choice. It's not a switch that you can flick on or off at any given moment. Now what if you had a relative that was gay would tell him/her to switch it off? If you did you'd be a douche-bag of a relative.

[roaddawg]

So the headline of this thread is that Dana called someone a faggot and in doing so should be forced to step down?

[noahm]

Hmmm. I'm not sure where this thread ended up. Anyway, posting an apology in no way justifies or neutralizes the action. He is the president of a major sports org that is trying to become a legitimately recognized sport (i.e. major adverts, sponsors, and major network coverage). If none of those things was a goal (not of just the UFC, but MMA as a whole), it wouldn't matter. No one would care if the president of Cockfighting USA molested a sheep while singing the national anthem before an event.

However, since he IS supposed to be representing the future of MMA and the UFC in particular, he NEEDS to fade into the distance. I am just beside myself with how many people are supporting this crap. This is the sport that YOU enjoy and this guy keeps it at the level of WWE. He HAS been given many, many, chances to act professionally, so its not as if he needs a second chance. Stick with hosting TUF Dana. Hope you enjoy your vacation.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

So the headline of this thread is that Dana called someone a faggot and in doing so should be forced to step down?

No. The headline is that dana is apologizing after being criticized for a rant in which he called a female reporter a bitch and her sources faggots, and then referred to two of his fighters as retards.

I don't know that anyone has said he needs to step down. I've said he needs to change or he needs to go...there is a huge difference.

rh

[roaddawg]

True noahm but at the sametime you gotta respect someone whose brutually honest and lays all of their cards on the table. Personally I like the way he carries himself because he comes across as being "just one of the guys". At the sametime I can see some of the points here where that could be damaging to the UFC.

I certainly don't think he should step down though. Thats a bit extreme for someone considered to be a pioneer in MMA.

Riv:
I would be very surprised if he made any drastic changes unless he does something so damaging to the UFC that causes the company to lose popularity and revenue. I just dont see that happening for a company thats pretty much like WWE in terms of being a monopoly. If anything this will probably be a minor hand slap.

[noahm]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

True noahm but at the sametime you gotta respect someone whose brutually honest and lays all of their cards on the table. Personally I like the way he carries himself because he comes across as being "just one of the guys". At the sametime I can see some of the points here where that could be damaging to the UFC.

I don't think you have to respect anyone who handles themselves that way. I am 'just one of the guys', and in public I would be offended if I heard anyone handle themselves that way. That kind of filth is reserved for backyard barbeques and poker night etc, never in the public eye. That's like saying I gotta respect a guy like Bam Margera for keeping it real. Not saying Dana hasn't made me laugh over the years, but respect is not a thing I have for him. You gotta earn that by giving it.

I think people are having a hard time separating liking his persona from his job duties. He would be a great commentator, just not the frontman of the UFC.