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[AJL416AZ]

Originally Posted by tapout189

barnett? he took steroids and still sucks

explain how beating the number 3 HW in the world, and then fighting cro cop, and then subbing a juiced up Nastula in the space of like a month is not impressive

this year alone, he's beaten Aleksander, Noguiera, Hunt, Nastula, and Nakamura.


he's proven himself to be top 4 at the very least, if not top 3 over Big Nog

[chungt79]

Originally Posted by tapout189

barnett? he took steroids and still sucks

That was a dumb thing to say.

[CanadianWarrior]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Definately Fedor.....He's undefeated, and has proven he's well rounded.

I disagree. Fedor's stand up isn't great, he's just very dominate with the tools he has.

I think BJ Penn, Chuck Liddell, Cro Cop, and Arlovski.

[Cromm]

Originally Posted by tapout189

barnett? he took steroids and still sucks

Barnett sucks? What do you base this statement on? Was it the Mark Hunt sub, or maybe when he subbed Aleks, no I got it when he subbed Pastula if its not that then could it be where he almost subbed Big Nog.... and all in the last 12 mo. A very active fighter who has monsterous transitional submissions. His stand up is mediocare, but his ground game and intelligence more then makes up for that.

[chungt79]

Originally Posted by CanadianWarrior

I disagree. Fedor's stand up isn't great, he's just very dominate with the tools he has.

I think BJ Penn, Chuck Liddell, Cro Cop, and Arlovski.

I dont think anyone can disagree Fedor is one of the best all around fighters. He has beaten his opponents by various methods.

I also think your list is VERY weak when it comes to well rounded fighters.

Chuck is all stand up, Cro Cop is all stand up, and Arlovski is all stand up. How are they well rounded? Only exception is BJ who is good on his feet and ground.

[dewrdie]

I agree with you Chung. Not saying those fighters aren't good but they are not well rounded.

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by CanadianWarrior

I disagree. Fedor's stand up isn't great, he's just very dominate with the tools he has.

I think BJ Penn, Chuck Liddell, Cro Cop, and Arlovski.

Fedor went toe to toe with CroCop and your criticizing his stand up?? When have you seen Liddell sub anyone? Arlovski shouldn't even be in the list because he's gotten his ass handed to him a couple of times. CroCop cross trains in BJJ but he would rather stay on his feet.

I would bet any amount of money that Fedor would whip any of the fighters you named, standing, on the ground, on the clinch, you make the call.

[Howie]

GSP is very well rounded in my opinion. he has great standup and a great ground game.

as for Barnett sucking. your an idiot

[AJL416AZ]

fedor doesnt have orthodox technical standup, but he has great movement and evades well, and he slingshots his standing punches for maximum whip and impact without having to wind up and telegraph his punches, and the result looks something like this