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10-28-2009, 01:04 AM
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| Machida on Dana White: "Anyone who has a mouth can talk. I respect his opinion" Fighters Only Magazine - The World's Greatest MMA Magazine - News - Machida responds to Dana White's comments Quote:
Lyoto Machida has responded to UFC president Dana White, who said that he believes Mauricio ’Shogun’ Rua won their light-heavyweight title fight at UFC 104. White made the comments at the post-event press conference, which he opened with the words “Shogun won that fight.“
“Anyone who has a mouth can talk. I respect his opinion and I’m ready to fight Shogun or any other challenger UFC decides, but I would like to say that this fight was not judged by myself, my father or Anderson Silva,” Machida told Sherdog today. “This fight was judged by professionals, so I’m pretty much comfortable with the result.”
He also accused Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg of bias, saying their commentary has swayed public opinion against him. “The American commentators were pretty much biased. If you see the fight without audio, you will probably see a different fight.”
“I thought it was a very even and tough fight,” Machida said. “I had the opportunity to see the fight again and I thought I won four rounds and Shogun took the last one. Some people say he won the fourth and fifth round, but for sure I won at least the first three rounds…Shogun was a great opponent and had a nice strategy. He deserves all my respect as a fighter, but I was superior.
Echoing recent comments by Cecil Peoples, who was one of the judges of the fight, Machida added, “He kicked my legs a couple of times, but he wouldn’t knock me out with that.”
Dana White has said that there will most likely be an immediate rematch and Machida says if that is the case, he will study tape of the UFC 104 fight to formulate a different strategy for their second meeting, which he would like to win by knockout. |
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10-28-2009, 01:08 AM
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I like the out come even with I wanted Shogun to win. As know we get to see it again, and suspect the next one should be more agressive.
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10-28-2009, 02:13 AM
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Lyoto fucked up already. He clearly knew, and felt himself that he had lost that fight after the last bell rang. You could see it in his eyes, and he was even surprised at the decision himself. BUT, number one rule - NEVERRR act surprised or show ANY kind of sign of the sort when put in that situation or the similar. In doing so, for those of us who catch it anyway, it supports the fact that everyone is saying he lost. He felt it, just like most of us did. And we saw him. Now im sure his managers and everyone is telling him what to say in order to restore public image, and to diminish the voice of us who knows he lost.
Funny how he says the leg kicks wouldn't knock him out...the leg kicks may not knock him physically unconscience, but, "A man who cannot stand, cannot fight."
and he wanted to fight brock...
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10-28-2009, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DayneFS Lyoto fucked up already. He clearly knew, and felt himself that he had lost that fight after the last bell rang. You could see it in his eyes, and he was even surprised at the decision himself. BUT, number one rule - NEVERRR act surprised or show ANY kind of sign of the sort when put in that situation or the similar. In doing so, for those of us who catch it anyway, it supports the fact that everyone is saying he lost. He felt it, just like most of us did. And we saw him. Now im sure his managers and everyone is telling him what to say in order to restore public image, and to diminish the voice of us who knows he lost.
Funny how he says the leg kicks wouldn't knock him out...the leg kicks may not knock him physically unconscience, but, "A man who cannot stand, cannot fight."
and he wanted to fight brock... | Like he said, he watched the fight,and saw that he did win those first three rounds. Which he did. Rua thought the leg kicks would win the fight,and the judges didnt.
Most of the time I dont care what Dana says. But I think starting off the pree-conference with " Shogun won" was the wrong move. Back your fighters, back your champion, and most of all back the judges. Anderson is with machida, would you wanna piss of Anderson and Machida, along with Big Nog, and their managment, I fucking wouldnt.
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10-28-2009, 02:55 AM
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yeah, but in all reality, too many kicks from a strong fighter with excellent technique, can actually break your legs in a real life fight. i know, i know, its the cage. but im talking reality here. and thats what it should be based on anyway...
as for dana, i completely agreee, it looked like SHIT for him to say/do that. even though i think shogun won, that looks bad on his part. i agree, support your fighters/champions. but even if you think the judges were right on this fight, theres been plenty others that they have just FUCKED up, one TOO many times....and i just hate it man. sick of it. the UFC needs to sit down and make some fuckin rules and guidelines for Specifically appointed UFC judges.
and thats another huge issue with the UFC, is that youre right, Anderson and the Nogs and that whole group, well, anderson specifically...if they really wanted to, can heavily influence the UFC in ways that no one should be able to, if they actually DID get pissed off...thats not good for the UFC at all.
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10-28-2009, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DayneFS yeah, but in all reality, too many kicks from a strong fighter with excellent technique, can actually break your legs in a real life fight. i know, i know, its the cage. but im talking reality here. and thats what it should be based on anyway...
as for dana, i completely agreee, it looked like SHIT for him to say/do that. even though i think shogun won, that looks bad on his part. i agree, support your fighters/champions. but even if you think the judges were right on this fight, theres been plenty others that they have just FUCKED up, one TOO many times....and i just hate it man. sick of it. the UFC needs to sit down and make some fuckin rules and guidelines for Specifically appointed UFC judges.
and thats another huge issue with the UFC, is that youre right, Anderson and the Nogs and that whole group, well, anderson specifically...if they really wanted to, can heavily influence the UFC in ways that no one should be able to, if they actually DID get pissed off...thats not good for the UFC at all. | Agreed. I keep saying Ed Soares rules the world man. That guy has all of the best fighters these days, I wouldnt want to get on his bad side. As of right now, their "team" is at the top. And honestly, their going to make Machida kill the next person he fights. Anderson is teaching Machida how to be the next greatest MMA fighter,and thats fucking scary. I like when Dana speaks his mind, but you gotta think ahead. Calling someone a Faggot, not to bad, Bad mouthing one of Ed's boys, fucking bad idea. Considering Ed could be a huge name in the world in a few years, Dana needs to watch that.
The UFC dosent have anything to do with the judges. And they never will, the commision rules over that. And they dont allow the UFC any leway into that aspect. Look what happened to EXC when it was rumored they tried to fix a fight. The UFC cant affor to even have a whisper of them being involved with judges. The second they do, their game is over. And they dont get a liscence anywhere.
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10-28-2009, 03:35 AM
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yeah, you are right with soares. he is becoming dangerous in his own sense, like you said, managing some of the top tier fighters in the world/ MMA world, AND A.Silva, lol. it wouldnt be intelligent on his part to fuck the UFC, BUT HE COULD if they Really wanted to. they have the ability, and thats what makes him a threat. and yeah...another thing that i can agree with you on ,now that i think about it, is how hard silva is going to be training lyoto now....and patching any holes he showed in that fight, and we all know how good silva is at patching up HIS mistakes...maybe come up with a new evasive strategy...aghh shit. we will have to hope and see i guess.
man i just wish he never drank piss. it just killed his image to me, lol. no matter how much of an ass-kicking machine he becomes.... "he drank PISS.".. that pic with him downing the glass just wrenches my guts everytime.
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10-28-2009, 07:04 AM
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I am a huge Shogun fan so this is not making an excuse, but Machida is 150% right about the commentating. The commentating was just awful IMO. After watching the fight live and then watching a round or two with the sound off, it swayed decisions in my house amongst a few people. I am surprised that Rogan or Goldberg could even talk with Shogun's junk in their mouth!
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10-28-2009, 07:23 AM
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They thought Shogun was winning the fight, there's a big difference between that and having his junk in their mouth. Is their commentary influential? Sure, and I think Machida makes a valid point bringing that up. He's still one of my favorite fighters, and I'm glad he is saying he will change his game plan based on the tape and go for a KO this time.
But I still think he lost. He came after Shogun more, he had a few flurries that looked like desperation moves where as Shogun remained calm and countered successfully the entire fight. I think most of the controversy comes from the idea that Shogun not only landed considerably more shots, he also landed the more damaging shots.
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10-28-2009, 08:00 AM
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While I do agree that Machida took the first three rounds, I think he is trying to make himself believe he clearly won the fight, which he didn't CLEARLY win it. It was very close, and he definitely didn't take the 4th round.
And I agree with GL Jeff, opening a press conference by saying what he said definitely was a bad move.
If he had done that with the Franklin/Hendo fight, he would have caused an uproar.
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