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11-17-2009, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GL Jeff I think your under the impression BJ gets to make any choices as to what he is allowed to wear to the cage, and hes not.
If the UFC says they wont promote a company, then so be it. It does suck, I am not saying it dosent, but either sponsor fighters in the UFC, or dont, thats their choice.
I am not saying RVCA is a rival company to the UFC. I am saying Strikeforce is, and if the UFC dosent want a company cross promoting, then RVCA needs to pick a side. Yet again, I am not saying its a good thing, but you need to make the right buisness descisions.
If you really think Dana runs everything, and makes all the choices, then your delusional. While Dana does have a big say in things, its not just him. His bosses have to be OK with it too. | So you think that Frank and Lorenzo are running the show, I think your the delusional one here. And RVCA needs to pick a side..? That's such a tool post, that would be the dumbest move ever on RVCA's part. And for the record Tapout operates outside the UFC.
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11-17-2009, 04:03 PM
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of course Dana has a lot of pull...dude, he walks in and says we should ban abc and the Fertittas are like "this guy made us millions of dollars so whatever he wants he's got"...
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11-17-2009, 04:17 PM
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I would do the same thing. You don't get anywhere in the business world unless you bully a few people around. I am guilty of the same type of decisions and it ends up being something positive in the end.
Sucks for the fighters but there is always condom depot.
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11-17-2009, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mirko45 Food for thought, the year or so ban of Affliction didn't directly make anyone leave including GSP who was/is one of the faces of the brand | Quote:
Originally Posted by GL Jeff Also, I dont blame them. Why would they do anything to help out a rival company? You would do the same thing. UFC wants exclusive deals, so their brand dosent get tacked over to someone else's when their logo comes up.
Either way, lines are going o be drawn, and everyone needs to pick a side. Thats buisness. | Quote:
Originally Posted by GL Jeff I think your under the impression BJ gets to make any choices as to what he is allowed to wear to the cage, and hes not.
If the UFC says they wont promote a company, then so be it. It does suck, I am not saying it dosent, but either sponsor fighters in the UFC, or dont, thats their choice.
I am not saying RVCA is a rival company to the UFC. I am saying Strikeforce is, and if the UFC dosent want a company cross promoting, then RVCA needs to pick a side. Yet again, I am not saying its a good thing, but you need to make the right buisness descisions. | I agree with all of these posts. I don't know why some people are making a big deal out of this. It's nothing new how UFC bans certian sponsors sometimes.
Take this for a hypothetical example. Lets say Brock quits UFC and joins strikeforce. Not that anyone else in the UFC wears them, but do you think UFC would allow any of its fighters to wear Death Clutch shirts to the octagon? I think not!
UFC has the right to allow or ban whatever it's fighters wear to the cage, this is old news. A lot of fighters used to be sponsored by Full Tilt Poker before they got banned. Life goes on and fighters and their agents find new companies to sponsor them, its not a big deal. I think the affliction sponsorship as posted by someone else is a perfect example. Its just the way UFC does business.
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11-17-2009, 04:43 PM
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One thing for sure BJ is not gonna be happy about this..Dana i understand Clinch Gear But RVCA just GGA..
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11-17-2009, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyreas I would do the same thing. You don't get anywhere in the business world unless you bully a few people around. I am guilty of the same type of decisions and it ends up being something positive in the end.
Sucks for the fighters but there is always condom depot. | Positive for who? You? This is complete garbage, Dana White should be banned from MMA and exiled to North Korea to get treated the same he treats fighters and business's that help his fighter actually attempt to make a decent livng.
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11-17-2009, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gl jeff dont blame dana white, blame zuffa. Its a group of people who deside these things.
Also, i dont blame them. Why would they do anything to help out a rival company? You would do the same thing. Ufc wants exclusive deals, so their brand dosent get tacked over to someone else's when their logo comes up.
Either way, lines are going o be drawn, and everyone needs to pick a side. Thats buisness. | it's call competition, it's one of the key elements to make a capitalism work and just look at our country, if you want to know why avoiding competition is bad for everyone. I know i just posted but i've been re-read some of these post. People who call this "just business" are just fucking lame.
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11-17-2009, 06:14 PM
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Rvca!
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11-17-2009, 07:29 PM
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The way I see it, Dana has done a whole lot for the fighters. Not just the ones in the UFC. It it weren't for him and the UFC do you think MMA would really be where its at today? Probably not. Plus, you have to look at it this way, the UFC is putting a lot of money back into the company and the sport. There was an interview before where Dana talked about having lawyers fighting to legalize the sport in New York and other places where it wasn't allowed. It has been legalized in many of those places. So when you say that he's not paying the fighters enough, you have to see that the money he puts back into the sport is helping them as well.
As for the ban, I don't think its a bad idea at all. Like others have said, there are exclusive contracts in every company. If you don't want that with the UFC, then don't expect them to allow you to advertise with them. You look at other athletes that are sponsored say by Nike...they can't go wearing ADIDAS around. It doesn't make sense. This is the same exact thing. If you want to work with Strikeforce, fine, but then you can't work with me.
Looking at sports like baseball and football, I'm sure that in the first 5-10 years those sports were around, the players weren't making more money than than the average worker. Prove that you're a draw for the company, and you will eventually make the money you want/deserve.
On a final note, as much of a fan as Dana might be, he's still running a business. Sometimes your boss makes some shitty rules that suck for you, but protect the company
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11-17-2009, 07:40 PM
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LOL! Here we go again!
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