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[Mr.Gummy]

I liked how in the first paragraph the author was talking about how back in the day a woman jumping out of a cake topless used to mean something. He's right, nowadays that scene is just meh... I blame internet porn for desenthasizing (sp?) me.

[Pasha K]

Seagal really said it exactly like that? I mean with that grammar?

[lord401]

Oh, I only wish I could have seen Seagal VS. Gene Lebell.

[Leucoethiops]

Originally Posted by Mr.Gummy

I liked how in the first paragraph the author was talking about how back in the day a woman jumping out of a cake topless used to mean something. He's right, nowadays that scene is just meh... I blame internet porn for desenthasizing (sp?) me.

Desensitizing.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by ElvisLaw

While I understand and to a great degree agree with him, I can't help but think that he is being a little hypocritical. How do his movies do anything different. Sure they are fiction but they show him using martial arts to beat the shit out of people. People may take martial arts after they see UFC with the possible thought of fighting people but I would say (at least back in the '80s and 90's) just as many kids took martial arts wanting to beat up people like Chuck Norris, Van Damme or Segal.

Very perceptive. Whenever I think of Seagal, I think of the mad tv spoof where Will Sasso impersonates him and goes around beating up old ladies and breaking peoples necks for stupid reasons. His career has been based on showcasing violence for other peoples entertainments. I personally have never taken martial arts for the spiritual side of it, I just do it to fight people for fun and learn how to not get my ass kicked, but thats just me I guess.

[KevoOnTheRadio]

Originally Posted by Mr.Gummy

I liked how in the first paragraph the author was talking about how back in the day a woman jumping out of a cake topless used to mean something. He's right, nowadays that scene is just meh... I blame internet porn for desenthasizing (sp?) me.

Man, my Dad loved that movie, and I would watch it with him. That scene brought me into manhood. My Dad would tell me I had this look on my face when she popped out of the cake like "Wow, those look fun!"

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by Ramma

Sorry, I also understood it lol.

Martial arts is meant to make people disciplined and humble. The point of MMA (to many people) is that they are there to hurt each other. But the only point of martial arts is to help people.

He just kind of fumbled over his words and whoever posted his comment decided not to edit it. Do you have any idea how many times people would sound like that in interviews if they weren't edited?




Edited could have made it make sense. Whoever wrote this because wrote it as one sentence on purpose. Even the first sentence, there should have been a period. No interpretation on that fact.

I too understood what he said first time around. While he doesnt enjoy the mindset that certain fighters have of intentionally going in the octagon with the sole purpose of hurting their opponents (ie Frank Mir) he does however enjoy the application side of MMA.

You can really tell MMA fans are growing with the sport by their responses to whats going on in the fight. The beginning of a triangle choke, yelling for knee strikes, booing at repetitive failed takedown attempts (Diego vs BJ) etc etc. It's a good learning experience that you can possibly take home with you the next time you get in that bar fight hahaha.

I imagine Segal would dislike guys like Frank Mir and embrace guys like Demian Maia.

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[JimmyMoore]

Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE

LOL! You can tell who has actually taken or knows about "martial arts" versus the people who just watch mma.

Seagal makes all the sense in the world to me. "Not to conquer others but to conquer the weaknesses in oneself".

Martial arts is "self defense". He is saying that all the ufc shows is the "fighting" aspect of it. He's right.

Just like every movie Seagal has EVER made...

EDIT: Elvislaw beat me to it!

[Nechaev]

I'll have to start by saying that the early point mentioning Seagal's hypocrisy, due to his very bloody bone gnashing action films, is more than fair. He wasn't actaully Kain from Kung Fu in those movies. Though I have to admit that I enjoyed them back in the day all the same. However, I do agree with Seagal's statement (maybe not the grammatical structure of it ) but just as well, I feel the same.
Though MMA fan that I am, and I wouldn't be on this site if I wasn't, I have to admit something has happened to the martial arts in the last 20 years I have been training in it. The skill level has indeed improved drastically since the dawn of MMA, but the honor and respect I used to love dearly is continuously fading. Never have I seen such an endless tide of half witted meatheads enter the gym. They ridicule their weaker counterparts, and only show respect to brute strength. They come in their standard steroid built, tatoo clad, shaved headed selves, and they don't offer me any respect until I beat them in a sparring or grappling match, when I should have their respect to begin with.
I'm beginning to feel out of place in the gym, since I can speak in complete sentences rather than grunts. And much worse, I'm beginning to feel out of place due to the respect I show to those weaker than myself. It never was this way before. MMA competition is not a gladiator pit, but many (not all of course) of the new breed of participants and fans seem to believe that it is. They respect domination rather than courage and honor, and that is a sad spectacle. I say this of course having read many of the posts on this board, and knowing that most of you do in fact respect honour and courage above brute strength, but we know very well the attitude that pervades out there.
I just want to see a return of some of the old tradition. (Not the shitty technique, or god forbid the forms. I'll throw myself off a frickin building before I do another useless form in my life). But I think you get the meaning.

[KevoOnTheRadio]

Originally Posted by Nechaev

I'll have to start by saying that the early point mentioning Seagal's hypocrisy, due to his very bloody bone gnashing action films, is more than fair. He wasn't actaully Kain from Kung Fu in those movies. Though I have to admit that I enjoyed them back in the day all the same. However, I do agree with Seagal's statement (maybe not the grammatical structure of it ) but just as well, I feel the same.
Though MMA fan that I am, and I wouldn't be on this site if I wasn't, I have to admit something has happened to the martial arts in the last 20 years I have been training in it. The skill level has indeed improved drastically since the dawn of MMA, but the honor and respect I used to love dearly is continuously fading. Never have I seen such an endless tide of half witted meatheads enter the gym. They ridicule their weaker counterparts, and only show respect to brute strength. They come in their standard steroid built, tatoo clad, shaved headed selves, and they don't offer me any respect until I beat them in a sparring or grappling match, when I should have their respect to begin with.
I'm beginning to feel out of place in the gym, since I can speak in complete sentences rather than grunts. And much worse, I'm beginning to feel out of place due to the respect I show to those weaker than myself. It never was this way before. MMA competition is not a gladiator pit, but many (not all of course) of the new breed of participants and fans seem to believe that it is. They respect domination rather than courage and honor, and that is a sad spectacle. I say this of course having read many of the posts on this board, and knowing that most of you do in fact respect honour and courage above brute strength, but we know very well the attitude that pervades out there.
I just want to see a return of some of the old tradition. (Not the shitty technique, or god forbid the forms. I'll throw myself off a frickin building before I do another useless form in my life). But I think you get the meaning.

Great point, rep'd. I think you can draw some correlations between the attitude in your gym and how people treat eachother in everyday society.