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[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by rivethead

Werdum>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Overeem

rh

I think Overeem can beat Werdum. Overeem is much stronger, a better striker, and has a decent gg. IMO, he Overeem would knock him out before before he got the chance to sub him.

Originally Posted by rivethead

Very simply:

AO has never beaten a top 20 HW. Werdum has, repeatedly.

Werdum has beaten AO.



Any more brain busters?

rh

MMA math doesn't work in MMA dude. you shoudl know that. Styles make fights and AO has the skill set to beat Werdum. And I'm not even a big fan of Overeem because of what you said but I don't see Werdum doing it.

[Y2JUBAE]

Alistair Overeem Wants Fedor Emelianenko in May or June

Translation:
AO: "I don't want to win anymore"

I agree that Werdum deserves it more and would be a better fight, but lets just get this one out of the way for Strikeforces sake. Let Fedor take the belt off of this guy please!

[Mr.Gummy]

Originally Posted by grambino

I have been planning on fighting Fedor in March myself. I guess since he's fighting Werdum in April he just doesn't want to fight me.

this was the most LOL worthy post I've read in awhile!!

Originally Posted by GL Jeff

Ok, AO had no one to fight against for the belt for the longest time. So he went out,and took fights elsewhere. And not that SF has some HWs he is just supposed to drop everything and run over, nah. While I do think he needs to defend his belt,and I am sure he will, I dont think hes doing anything wrong. He just needs to add SF into his calendar.

I agree, if he wants to make some money the easy way, I don't blame him!

Originally Posted by schizerbone

So I guess it will be Fedor vs. Werdum?

*prepares for Werdum to be ranked a top 5 HW*

OMG! you sir are brilliant!!!


I really doubt Overeem fights Fedor his first fight back. StrikeForce needs to build him up first. I doubt the casuals even know who he is. Hell I didn't know he lost to werdum. And I'm an AO-holic

[king]

Originally Posted by mattc25

.....C'mon AO you can cylce down by April just in time for the SF card.....this guy is disgrace to SF. Coker needs to demand he fight Fedor in April or be stripped of the title.

agreed...there's absolutely no reason not to make fedor-werdum for the belt.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by Harlem

I think Overeem can beat Werdum. Overeem is much stronger, a better striker, and has a decent gg. IMO, he Overeem would knock him out before before he got the chance to sub him.

MMA math doesn't work in MMA dude. you shoudl know that. Styles make fights and AO has the skill set to beat Werdum. And I'm not even a big fan of Overeem because of what you said but I don't see Werdum doing it.

It's not MMA math when the fighters in question have already fought. Werdum has already beaten AO.

I'm not saying AO has absolutely no chance, I'm saying he's not as highly ranked as Werdum by anyone who knows jack shit about ranking.

I'm also saying Werdum's ground game is at least as good as AO's striking, but AO's ground game isn't even close to being as good as Werdum's striking, and Werdum transitions between the two far better than AO. Fabricio has gotten markedly better since their first fight; AO has gotten bigger, but not appreciably better.

Sure, AO has an excellent puncher's chance, and Werdum has been shown to have a vulnerable chin, so there is potential for AO to win...but anyone who currently has him ranked above Fabricio--in MMA--has their head up their ass.

rh

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by rivethead

It's not MMA math when the fighters in question have already fought. Werdum has already beaten AO.

I'm not saying AO has absolutely no chance, I'm saying he's not as highly ranked as Werdum by anyone who knows jack shit about ranking.

I'm also saying Werdum's ground game is at least as good as AO's striking, but AO's ground game isn't even close to being as good as Werdum's striking, and Werdum transitions between the two far better than AO. Fabricio has gotten markedly better since their first fight; AO has gotten bigger, but not appreciably better.

Sure, AO has an excellent puncher's chance, and Werdum has been shown to have a vulnerable chin, so there is potential for AO to win...but anyone who currently has him ranked above Fabricio--in MMA--has their head up their ass.

rh

No doubt Werdum should be ranked higher and on the ground he's much better than Overeem, but Overeem is so big and strong I think it may be hard for Werdum to get him to the ground and if he doesn't get it to the ground, he's probably going to get nose kneed into his brain.

Overeem is a world class striker but he has a pretty good ground game and sub D. Not too sure about his TDD but I would bet it has improved. At this point, I have a feeling Overeem has a big advantage.

BTW: I forgot they fought already.

[GL Jeff]

Originally Posted by rivethead

...this would be a logical post if AO hadn't refused several fights for SF, with his on-again/off-again hand injury.


rh

But the hand injury was legit. He might have dragged it out a little, but I think its more due to safety then anything. If he fucked up his hand his career would be pretty much over. Can we give him the benefit of the doubt?

[mattc25]

Originally Posted by GL Jeff

But the hand injury was legit. He might have dragged it out a little, but I think its more due to safety then anything. If he fucked up his hand his career would be pretty much over. Can we give him the benefit of the doubt?

...no he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt because he has had months to prove the fans wrong. AO's hand is obviously fine considering how active he has been in K-1/Dream since october 2009. Since then he has turned down fight's against Werdum and Brett Rogers supposedly because his hand was broken. Well I do believe the injury was legit.......

....AO will not fight in the states because he does not have the confidence to fight off of the juice......if this is not painfully obvious to you,you are not being honest with yourself about Overeem and just another fanboy.

[Pasha K]

BTW I dont understand how Overeem is planning to fight Fedor in May/June. Fedor will fight in April.

[kabenjis]

Originally Posted by mattc25

...no he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt because he has had months to prove the fans wrong. AO's hand is obviously fine considering how active he has been in K-1/Dream since october 2009. Since then he has turned down fight's against Werdum and Brett Rogers supposedly because his hand was broken. Well I do believe the injury was legit.......

....AO will not fight in the states because he does not have the confidence to fight off of the juice......if this is not painfully obvious to you,you are not being honest with yourself about Overeem and just another fanboy.

Agreed he doesnt deserve anything. Since he won the title and "hurt his hand", he's had 7 fights for a different organization! If your hand is hurting that bad and you have a chance of ruining your career, then dont be fighting for other people! You're the Champ...you fight anyone that SF puts infront of you cuz thats your job! You dont get to pick your opponents because you dont find them worthy. Or any other reason if you're willing to fight for other people