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I support them, they should not allow people to make money off them 16 23.88%
Put the legal fees towards the fighters salaries instead 19 28.36%
Put the legal fees towards cheaper PPVs instead 28 41.79%
Dana White should go back to boxercising 21 31.34%
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:17 PM   #41 (permalink)
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If I'm having a group of folks over to my house, I'll usually have them pitch in 10 bucks a couple and bring some food. Sometimes, I've had nobody come over and then I had to decide whether or not I really wanted the PPV's. Honestly, what would happen if they raise the price of Milk, Bread, and basic food necessities.

ufc ppv's are a far shy from basic food necessities. that being said, over the past few decades the price of food, as well as the general cost of living, has increased. personally i think most of these things are too expensive so i grow most of my own vegetables, can make my own bread products, fish and hunt for as much meat as possible, and try to do the majority of the rest of my shopping at local farmers markets where their capitol isnt so high and, hopefully, the government taxes and shipping costs dont cause such inflated prices.


i know most of this dosnt pertain to the subject, but it does answer your question about basic needs. the point that i was trying to get across in my last post is that at this price and frequency, i feel that the current business model may not be very sustainable or, at least, may plateau very soon. with this many shows, the ufc may over saturate the market and could see their possible ppv sales drop off to a lesser level than what they are shooting for. if they where to put on less shows per year, that where more packed with fights that the fans want to see, they will undoubtedly see higher ppv numbers, and may make more money this way. think about it this way... if the ufc did 6 shows a year (every other month), and had enough hype to sell an average of 2.15 million buys (the amount that mayweather vs de la hoya did), they would not only make more money, but they would have the money to pay their fighters better. right now, with monthly ppvs, they are averaging maybe 600k ppv buys, probably less.


at 600k buys, at 50 bucks a pop, the ufc makes 30 million per ufc. minus the average 3 million for fighter salaries and lets say 10 million for other employee salaries and advertising.. they profit 17 million every month or 34 million every 2 months. at 2.5 million buys mayweather vs de la hoya made 125 million. if the ufc did that they could essentially quadruple their fighter pays to 12 million every 2 months, employee salaries and advertising to 40 million and still prophit 63 million dollars ever other month which is almost double they are bringing in right now. i feel like that is a little more of a sustainable business model and sales projection.


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I'm sorry, but if you are not paying for their product, you're not a customer and wouldn't be considered a fan in their eyes.
Actually, if I watch UFN's or that horrible fucking reality show, I'm generating Nielson ratings, allowing them to drive up their ad revenue, and I'm absolutely a customer.

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I think Dana is a fair businessman when it comes to how he treats his fans and employees. If you watch his video blogs, he was giving left over tickets to the first FANS that visited him after he posted a message on his twitter account. He gave away over 200 tickets FREE! rather than leaving the remaining arena seats empty. He didn't have to do that.
Neither did Autencio when he gave tickets to Affliction away, and UFC-or-die kids got their panties utterly bunched over it, for the exact reason dan mentioned, and accused him of trying to make the stadium look more full.

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im gonna go with everyone else and say they need to either put on less shows with more fights for the 50 bucks or lower the price... its just too expensive to buy every ppv they put on.

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I think it depends on the fighter if they are making that little to fight in the UFC. Has Dana or the Fertidas confirmed that is what they are making?



He still doesn't have to give them out to fans who are in the area without tickets? This last one, he posted a message on his twitter and these people came running to the lobby of where the weigh ins were.

There is no way you'll be able to justify stealing a product.

How do I afford my pc? I have several freelance jobs to supplement my income.
Look, I agree with no justification on stealing. However, I can justify that a lot easier than I can someone watching a stream or downloading a ppv going to prison and sharing a cell with someone who is a murderer, rapist, etc. Dana specifically said "when people start going to prison..."

I really lost it on this issue when I read an article about the music industry WINNING a law suit against a woman who downloaded less than 3 cd's (24 songs). She now owes them more than 400 thousand dollars. They say because she uploaded while downloading, etc. Yet, they will still sue the people who downloaded from her. That is called "double jeopardy". In her case- thousand jeopardy.

Theres right and wrong, I understand, however, there is "punishment fit the crime" and someone going to prison for that crap is not fitting.
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I honestly have no problem paying $50 for each PPV, and I'm far from rich. Every once in a while there is a PPV (like 108) that seems weak due to injuries or whatever reason, but like this last one many times the ones that seem weak end up being very entertaining. I figure if you don't think an organization is putting on a strong enough card than don't bother watching it live. I don't really see that as a reason to justify "stealing" it.
I agree with Zuffa wanting to go after sites that stream their events. As far as file sharing and individuals they would just be wasting their time anyway.
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