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11-25-2006, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by strife Lutter doesn't stand with anyone, it's just a matter if he gets caught with a punch while going for the takedown that's the main factor. I see him losing because of this, but you never know. | i agree. everyone knows that lutter will not try to stand up. he is gonna have to train getting fast with his takedowns. he very well might get caught trying to shoot......but if he can eat a knee or a punch in the process and survive.....and take the fight to the ground....the guy might stand a chance.
but silva does NOT have poor ground game. might not be as good as lutters....but it is not bad. anderson could just as well win on the ground.
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11-25-2006, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Strikknucklez I was watching an old A. Silva fight on the fight network and although his stand up was dominant as usual, he lost the fight cause of his ground game. Albeit he probably wasn't a BJJ Black belt yet (or maybe he was) but he really didn't do anything to better his position and took a lot of punishment.
Bottomline he was outclassed on the ground...
Travis Lutter is a stud when it come to BJJ plus he seems to have unshakable patience which leads me to think that he might just be smart enough not to go toe to toe with Silva and just get the takedown and work submissions
Lutter by decision? | I feel the same way. For some reason I feel the match up is in Lutter's favor. He is the real deal with BJJ, I haven't seen anyone so dominate with submissions since hoyce was in his prime. I love SILVA and I'd be crazy to say he'd lose but I guess I'm crazy because you heard it from me: Lutter will win this fight. I know he has no stand up game but he still can knock you out cold. I will be betting on this fight. The odds will be against him and I think Lutter has more then a chance. Besides there may be an over-confidence/under-estimation factor for Silva.
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11-25-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Palma Wrestler I feel the same way. For some reason I feel the match up is in Lutter's favor. He is the real deal with BJJ, I haven't seen anyone so dominate with submissions since hoyce was in his prime. I love SILVA and I'd be crazy to say he'd lose but I guess I'm crazy because you heard it from me: Lutter will win this fight. I know he has no stand up game but he still can knock you out cold. I will be betting on this fight. The odds will be against him and I think Lutter has more then a chance. Besides there may be an over-confidence/under-estimation factor for Silva. | Best submissions since Royce was in his prime?!? I want what your smoking.
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11-25-2006, 10:31 AM
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I have a feeling that you are wrong.
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11-25-2006, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LILMAC Best submissions since Royce was in his prime?!? I want what your smoking. | Have you actually watched this guy? Serra is the Gracie guy and he is nowhere near Lutter.
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11-25-2006, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by thelegendrvb I have a feeling that you are wrong. | Well that's what's great about this thread. This is an actual card, not just some hypathetical argument. In this case the fight will speak for itself and then you can feel however you want about it.
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11-25-2006, 11:15 AM
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Horn is a better grappler than Lutter and Horn got dominated for 3 rounds. If not for his great chin, he would've been KOed.
Litter will be punished and worn down from eating punches, low kicks and high kicks. He is too fast for Lutter and I see Lutter having a really difficult time in the fight. Cote has poor footwork and is slow, A. Silva is not goign to look like Cote.
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11-25-2006, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by iced but silva does NOT have poor ground game. might not be as good as lutters....but it is not bad. anderson could just as well win on the ground. | what are you basing this on? Because judging from his past fights, his ground game is average at best.
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11-25-2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Palma Wrestler Have you actually watched this guy? Serra is the Gracie guy and he is nowhere near Lutter. | So what if Serra is a Gracie guy, he's not Royce and neither is Lutter. Hell I don't even like the guy, but are you gonna say Lutter has better BJJ than Penn too?
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Originally Posted by TapOut27 No chance. He will probably get Ko'ed. The last time anderson got submitted was by the craziest and fastest submissions ever (flying heel hook) | Do you have a video of that?
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