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[snakebite]

I like strikeforce, they have a growing talent and put on some quality shows. As we are all aware of there are things that need fixing. for instance at the weigh ins no one is there to seperate the two during the staredown. I mean the whole point is to not look away so how can they expect one of the fighters to end the stare down? Strikeforce staff knows this hence the reason they were litterally begging the guys to turn away and even saying "ok on the count of 3 both look away" I was laughing at that! It was almost embarrasing for them. How could strikeforce staff not notice how bad this looks themselves?
Another thing that needs changing is the gloves. one person wears red, while the other blue. This might not be seen as a problem to anyone but it does make it uneven in a sport where even a slight advantage can be HUGE. If you think im crazy just go check out the thousands of studies done on color and how it can effect a human being, physically and emotionally. The human eye is attracted to some colors more then others. It is also physically harder for some people to see certain colors over others. When these colors are attached to weapons trying to smash the life out of your body it seems like a problem to me.
Somthing i HATE about SF is the rules. I mean really no elbows on the ground?? That just takes a HUGE option for the fighters out of the equation. I dont know why they chose there specific rules but its taking away from the whole theme of MMA IMHO. OH and strikeforce.... PLEASE STOP SHOWING YOUR FIGHTS 3 HOURS AFTER THEY START LIVE!!!! That is the worst thing about them, the fight starts at 7pm but you cant watch it on showti
All of these things are easily fixable if the honchos would just stand back and take a look, rather then carry on like there ways are set in stone. If anyone wants to compete and really have a chance against the UFC they are going to have to really try and tighten things up a bit. Sometimes people just get stuff up and running and fail to finalize it to its fullest potential. the better the competion for the ufc, the more interesting fights and events are going to be offered in all MMA organazations.

[TBEAR]

Originally Posted by snakebite

I like strikeforce, they have a growing talent and put on some quality shows. As we are all aware of there are things that need fixing. for instance at the weigh ins no one is there to seperate the two during the staredown. I mean the whole point is to not look away so how can they expect one of the fighters to end the stare down? Strikeforce staff knows this hence the reason they were litterally begging the guys to turn away and even saying "ok on the count of 3 both look away" I was laughing at that! It was almost embarrasing for them. How could strikeforce staff not notice how bad this looks themselves?
Another thing that needs changing is the gloves. one person wears red, while the other blue. This might not be seen as a problem to anyone but it does make it uneven in a sport where even a slight advantage can be HUGE. If you think im crazy just go check out the thousands of studies done on color and how it can effect a human being, physically and emotionally. The human eye is attracted to some colors more then others. It is also physically harder for some people to see certain colors over others. When these colors are attached to weapons trying to smash the life out of your body it seems like a problem to me.
Somthing i HATE about SF is the rules. I mean really no elbows on the ground?? That just takes a HUGE option for the fighters out of the equation. I dont know why they chose there specific rules but its taking away from the whole theme of MMA IMHO. OH and strikeforce.... PLEASE STOP SHOWING YOUR FIGHTS 3 HOURS AFTER THEY START LIVE!!!! That is the worst thing about them, the fight starts at 7pm but you cant watch it on showti
All of these things are easily fixable if the honchos would just stand back and take a look, rather then carry on like there ways are set in stone. If anyone wants to compete and really have a chance against the UFC they are going to have to really try and tighten things up a bit. Sometimes people just get stuff up and running and fail to finalize it to its fullest potential. the better the competion for the ufc, the more interesting fights and events are going to be offered in all MMA organazations.

Teh rule about the elbows is BS and should be changed

I also see your point on the gloves make them all red or one color

[macewen]

I didnt like the "pro wrestling" pyros lastnight...looked kinda cheesy to me.

[BBG]

Entrance to the cage is another that I think is fucking stupid. They treat it like some kind of WWE/gameshow. Alot of guys take shit pretty seriously and it just has a cheezy feel to it.
I know it sounds PRO UFC but you can see CLEAR differences with promotion and organization between the two. The UFC seems, acts and treats the sport MUCH more professionally that SF.

I can second the elbows on the ground rule. I think it should be allowed and have the same regulations as the UFC with 12 & 6

[goodtimes]

I kind of think the no elbows is good for the fighters. There are far fewer cuts in strikeforce events then in UFC, which I think makes the sport more friendly for the public. I think SF is already going towards a more family orientated approach, with women fighting and this "feel good" Walker story they built up, while not allowing knees or elbows to downed opponents.

Another thing about elbows, there was an article where Nick Diaz was saying he like the no elbows, because it makes it much harder for a guy to damage someone in the guard without posturing up. This takes a primary weapon away from lay and pray fighters, and I believe Diaz said it makes sweeps easier to attempt when a guy can't be sliced up by short elbows.

I don't like how they promote hyped fights, like Lashley and Walker's, over legit contenders like Hieron, which seemed to be the most common complaint on this board. However, I think Coker is trying to just get people to watch, and if some football or pro wrestling fans watched because they liked either guy, then that's great for the sport.

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

My biggest issue with Strikeforce is the announcing.

Frank Shamrock's analysis is so brutal to listen to and often times, he makes the worst comparisons and insights and never provides any real technical commentary, rather just rambles on and on. But he's nothing compared to Mauro Ranallo. Not only does he try his hardest to sound like Marv Albert and Duffman's love child, but he slurps the product and the fighters so much that it's distracting and is so completely unnecessary. I hate when he draws pointless allusions that just aren't there and his references are just so imbecilic. The complete overstatement of the product kills me and really destroys the product.

I also don't care for the "keys to the fight" when all that shows up on the screen is a word like "jab" or "singleleg". It just seems so Super Nintendo-ish.

Overall, they just really need to tighten up the product, but the main key is announcing, for it's just so poor.

[Mirko45]

Booking, stop with such predictable match-ups please. I know you need to establish certain fighters, being an organization that is slowly gaining popularity. But since the Shamrock/Diaz card I think the only fight I've picked wrong has been Cyborg/Coenen. They have great fighters but all these cards are way too cut and dry imo

[beau420]

Not showing undercard fights definitely upset me.

Although it called several stalls in the action, especially in the Hershell fight, I like the no elbows to the face of a downed opponent. Just because a guy like Hershell looks like he has trained to throw elbows could have done plenty of other things, like go for a fucking armbar.

Like Bas Rutten has said time and time again, just because you can cut someone with an elbow doesn't mean you deserve to win the fight. Now kneeing your opponent in the head and making him go unconscious, that deserves to win a fight. (an upcoming event in Edmonton, Alberta is actually going to use Dream style rules, where kicks and stomps are going to be allowed and the association for boxing looks pissed)

Diaz doesn't like the elbows on the ground because he always had scar tissue problems.....but I agree, it is no way to win a fight.

But back to what I did and didn't like. Frank was less annoying this time, but I would rather anyone else...give me Militech instead of Frank and his braces.

I didn't mind the entrances....a lot of you guys are comparing it directly to the UFC.....don't....look at every other organization out there, from small shows, to mid sized one's to Japan. Look at a guy like Manhoef and when he came out....he was hyped and he couldn't do that in a place like the UFC where you have to walk out surrounded by security and watch for fans who are inches away from slapping, spiting, stabbing, you (alright a bit of a stretch, but it's possible)

It would be nice if they fighters got to choose the music they came out to. I am pretty sure every fighter came out to Strikeforce music. There should be a way to get this done without legal problem with music and royalties. Maybe by having a DJ play each fighters music when they come out (which I think they tried in TKO Boxing....or the boxing with Ed Lover and Dre) I think if a DJ is playing it, it is considered live entertainment, then you don't have to worry about the legal problems.

I like the different glove colours, although it would be interesting to have the stats on glove colours since Strikeforce shows have started.

They could have showed more fights...or done a recap at the end with all their highlight footage showing what each fighter did to win or talk to some of the celebrities in the crowd like GSP or Mousassi or Gilbert Melendez.

[enthb]

I think Fedor likes the no elbows rule too. So that could be a big influence also.

[TBEAR]

Originally Posted by enthb

I think Fedor likes the no elbows rule too. So that could be a big influence also.

If you are right then i will say this (Iwill Catch shit for this) If you dont like to get hit find anther sport. Fedor is great and I mean no disrespect to him, but elbows are part of FIGHTING!!!!!! right?