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02-01-2010, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mmawolverine strikeforce and lashley knew exactly what they were doing with the simms fight lashley knows he isnt good, paul buentello would have finished him hell anyone one from the ufc even hardonk would beat him, pat berry would bust him up real good, let him face AA if he thinks he's that good | It's funny, I remember people saying the same thing about Brock Lesnar too. I say don't talk crap until they lose. Lashley is actually doing it right and he's getting crap for it.
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02-01-2010, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by The Sensational One I don't understand why everyone wants this guy to fight top competetion. Hell many fighters had to amass 9-0 or 10-0 before fighting semi big names and big names. It is nuts how people were complaining about Brock jumping right in there and at first people were behind Lashely and his build up strategy but people now want to throw him into semi big names and big names? He is not Brock, he is Bobby Lashely, he is doing the right thing building up, getting experience, not making the jump to fast. Bobby vs Fedor would be terrible right now, Lashley vs Brett, i kinda of like that one a semi big name but who is one dimensional just as Lashely. But not against Werdum, Fedor. I don't get it, this guy wants to work up and get better and has never claimed to be the best, yet people call him a joke because he has not face top tier competetion? You know what is a joke, people who yell at Brock for going right in there and not working up to people yelling at Lashley for working up and not going right in there, that my friends is big joke. | Exactly!
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02-01-2010, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg Noone likes watching squash matches I dont care whom the fighter is. Wes Sims didnt even come to fight. He pulled the same bs antics that most of Lashleys opponents try to pull before getting their asses handed to him.
If youre going to be a fighter then be a fighter and fight opponents that present a challenge. They made King Mo step up in competition and rumor is hes fighting Mousasi next according to his backstage interview. Lashley needs to step it up.. period.
Its time to see how good Lashley really is so he can shutup his critics. If he loses like Lesnar did then so be it. | So, Lashley gets the backlash for what his OPPONENT did? How does that make sense. It's not Lashley's fault that Wes Sims came in and messed around and then got his ass handed to him for it.
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02-01-2010, 06:29 AM
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No reason to get aggressive after you got your ass whipped. Should have done that during the fight.
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02-01-2010, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by The Sensational One The fans are not the ones needed to gage how good he is, his trainers and he, himself need to gage that. I think he was on the right road but if he does get brought up to face these top guys he may or may not do well i think the latter. It is in his best interests and the fans best interest to wait for him to build himself up. | The problem is some fans tend to be selfish and value their own self interest over the fighters. It's the same reason "some" fans want to see Kimbo and King Mo fight guys who have a good chance at literally obliterating them at this stage in their career. This isn't a Bobby Lashley thing.
Also let me clarify that im not blaming Lashley for anything. I'm simply answering your question on why some fans want to see him step up in competition. My personal opinion is that he needs to step it up but I dont care to see him fight someone that King Mo just ran through. I do however want to see him fight another good wrestler on his level if not slightly better. The reason being is im hoping the wrestling aspect will be somewhat neutralized so we can see other parts to his game (if he has it).
That is just my personal opinion though.
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02-01-2010, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg GSP doesnt exactly have stellar standup but hes been considered P4P | bahahaha Whats next Page is the best striker in the LHW division come on now thats not even an opinion thats just bullshit.. If GSP wanted to take the chance he'd make Rumble or Semtex look like shit on the feet
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02-01-2010, 08:05 AM
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02-01-2010, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by WhootYouGotOwned bahahaha Whats next Page is the best striker in the LHW division come on now thats not even an opinion thats just bullshit.. If GSP wanted to take the chance he'd make Rumble or Semtex look like shit on the feet | ummmmmm if gsp stood toe to toe with daley then he would get his head knocked off. im pretty sure semtex has better striking that matt serra. gsp has good striking, but to say he can outstrike anyone in the ww is not true
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02-01-2010, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WhootYouGotOwned bahahaha Whats next Page is the best striker in the LHW division come on now thats not even an opinion thats just bullshit.. If GSP wanted to take the chance he'd make Rumble or Semtex look like shit on the feet | The last time GSP fought purely on his feet he got KO'd by a lightweight... I think his stand up is quite good, but if it weren't for his double legs he would not be a top fighter.
I agree with the people saying that Lashley did not bring this on himself, that he seemed to be quite pissed off about how he got his opponent like 1-2 weeks before the show, and that the fight was incredibly easy. If they want to bring him up slowly, that's fine, it's just a different approach. But I get the feeling we are going to get the Bisping talk about Lashley if it continues. Like how the UFC brought up Bisping slowly to build their market in the UK, and now Strikeforce is doing the same with the very popular but untested Lashley.
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02-01-2010, 09:14 AM
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i have no idea what the hell Sims was doing in that fight! he was very out of shape and probably hasn't trained in a while. so why even bother to fight? I'm sure they didn't pay him much but even at that the stoppage was premature! another thing that I LOATHE about Lashley he fought NO ONE thus far who is a real MMA fighter, give him whitehead, followed by AA, followed by Rogers and THEN maybe Fedor. but I still think Big Foot should come before the word "Fedor" comes out of Lashley's mouth
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