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11-28-2006, 02:56 PM
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Paulo Filho will be champion and is currently undefeated
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11-28-2006, 03:09 PM
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does anyone know the longest win streak?(doesn't have to be longest undefeated streak.)
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11-28-2006, 03:11 PM
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Hah, that's a better way of phrasing it. Guess I should've said "win streak" in regards to Frank and Bas.
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11-28-2006, 03:24 PM
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If ur thinking it terms of undefeated streaks I can list a couple off the top of my head..
Bas Rutten went on a 22 fight winning streak. 1 of those was a draw but a draw isnt losing.
Jeff Monson had a 16 fight winning streak before Tim Sylvia.
Also of course Diego Sanchez has a 16 fight winning streak without a title shot.
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11-28-2006, 05:11 PM
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Fedor has a loss, it counts its on his record, nothing anyone can say will take it away fedor is not a undifeated fighter, was it a bullshit that he lost yes but its still a loss,
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11-28-2006, 06:41 PM
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Well, maybe we should distinguish between de jure losses and de facto losses. For instance, in a lot of fights the judges decide who wins and who loses, and they may be on crack that night. Likewise, one guy could dominate a fight that isnt judged. In that case, an even fight is considered a win for one guy while another fight, where one guy dominated is considered a draw.
I think we need to differentiate between "official" records and what we consider the records to truly be, minus all the MMA politics.
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11-28-2006, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rufio Well, maybe we should distinguish between de jure losses and de facto losses. For instance, in a lot of fights the judges decide who wins and who loses, and they may be on crack that night. Likewise, one guy could dominate a fight that isnt judged. In that case, an even fight is considered a win for one guy while another fight, where one guy dominated is considered a draw.
I think we need to differentiate between "official" records and what we consider the records to truly be, minus all the MMA politics. | Very well put.
In short:
Fedor has not been 'defeated', thus he is undefeated.
git.
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11-28-2006, 08:11 PM
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I don't think anyones mentioned good ol' Ryoto Machida yet.
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11-28-2006, 11:11 PM
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...or Rickson Gracie
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11-28-2006, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rufio Well, maybe we should distinguish between de jure losses and de facto losses. For instance, in a lot of fights the judges decide who wins and who loses, and they may be on crack that night. Likewise, one guy could dominate a fight that isnt judged. In that case, an even fight is considered a win for one guy while another fight, where one guy dominated is considered a draw.
I think we need to differentiate between "official" records and what we consider the records to truly be, minus all the MMA politics. | Fedor has a loss on his record. The fact that he won the rematch doesn't change that. No matter what you guys believe or what your opinion is, NOTHING is going to change that. Like it or not you can't determine yourself or people like you to be the "de facto" judges in MMA. "Official" means official and trying to figure out which fights were bullshit or not is winning a medal at the special olympics... you might accomplish something but you're still retarded.
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