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[Parzival]

Cain's striking was on point. It was fast and accurate. He made Nog look slow. I think that is a problem from him with the super heavy weights he'll have to face. If he bulks up will he lose that hand speed and explosiveness? Will he lose that ability move in and out and chip away with those quick kicks?

On the other hand can those big hulks deal with his speed? I can totally see him engaging and disengaging at will and gassing them out. I haven't seen any of them have combos and footwork like him.

[TBEAR]

Originally Posted by Parzival

Cain's striking was on point. It was fast and accurate. He made Nog look slow. I think that is a problem from him with the super heavy weights he'll have to face. If he bulks up will he lose that hand speed and explosiveness? Will he lose that ability move in and out and chip away with those quick kicks?

On the other hand can those big hulks deal with his speed? I can totally see him engaging and disengaging at will and gassing them out. I haven't seen any of them have combos and footwork like him.

Brock is a fast as most LHW.... I dont like the guy but he is good. Cain would get manhandled, unless he puts on wieght

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by TBEAR

Brock is a fast as most LHW.... I dont like the guy but he is good. Cain would get manhandled, unless he puts on wieght

I am so sick of hearing about how Brock moves like a LHW, or a LW(according to Dana White), just because Frank Mir does not know how to sprawl and always looks surprised when Lesnar shoots a double on him. His shot is fast for a HW, but its not like he has fast hands or anything, and I haven't seen any crazy ability to make fast transitions with his wrestling game. He fights like a very big guy; his primary weapon is the right cross on the feet, he tries to run through people with his double legs, and he smothers them when it hits the ground.

[willpunisher]

lol there is no way that either mir or carwin will come out unscratched.
someone will either be with a broken face or broken leg, neck or arm.

[KevoOnTheRadio]

Originally Posted by willpunisher

lol there is no way that either mir or carwin will come out unscratched.
someone will either be with a broken face or broken leg, neck or arm.

I agree dude, I think we can damn near start planning Lesnar/Brown Pride for late spring.

[pantomime horse]

Cain's striking is what will give him an edge over Lesnar if they fight. I still believe that the next time Brock loses it will be by KO. Will Cain do it? Not sure, but I think he's got one hell of a shot.

[apardo]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

I am so sick of hearing about how Brock moves like a LHW, or a LW(according to Dana White), just because Frank Mir does not know how to sprawl and always looks surprised when Lesnar shoots a double on him. His shot is fast for a HW, but its not like he has fast hands or anything, and I haven't seen any crazy ability to make fast transitions with his wrestling game. He fights like a very big guy; his primary weapon is the right cross on the feet, he tries to run through people with his double legs, and he smothers them when it hits the ground.

thats because compared to his weight he practically does move like a LHW.

As a wrestler if i pin down my opponent and hold him in a position where i can reconfigure his face, why in gods name will i want to make any other transition to another position when i am already on a very comfortable one?

I agree his stand up needs alot of work but if brock pins down cain, its a done deal.

It was completely stupid for people or mir himself think that he will stand up and exchange with him when on their first fight he didnt do so. The fact that he got grazed on the back of his head saved him from a TKO.

Brock will go in their and soon as he gets outboxed hes going to take it to the ground and force his strength on cain and thats the end of it.

Im sick of ppl who think Brock Lesnar isnt what he has demonstrated he is just because he was in wwe . I agree he still has alot to learn but ts very ignorant how ppl tend to forget he was a two time NJCAA, 2x NCAA, and 2x Big Ten conference champion as well as winning the 98' NJCAA HW champ and 2000 NCAA HW champ. I dont know about you, but those are more than petty accomplishments, the guy had an amateur record of 106-5 overall.

so yes per his record and his accomplishments i firmly believe him to be a way better and more experienced wrestler than Cain Velasquez who only bears a 2 time 5A state championship.

[Rambo]

Originally Posted by apardo

thats because compared to his weight he practically does move like a LHW.

As a wrestler if i pin down my opponent and hold him in a position where i can reconfigure his face, why in gods name will i want to make any other transition to another position when i am already on a very comfortable one?

I agree his stand up needs alot of work but if brock pins down cain, its a done deal.

It was completely stupid for people or mir himself think that he will stand up and exchange with him when on their first fight he didnt do so. The fact that he got grazed on the back of his head saved him from a TKO.

Brock will go in their and soon as he gets outboxed hes going to take it to the ground and force his strength on cain and thats the end of it.

Im sick of ppl who think Brock Lesnar isnt what he has demonstrated he is just because he was in wwe . I agree he still has alot to learn but ts very ignorant how ppl tend to forget he was a two time NJCAA, 2x NCAA, and 2x Big Ten conference champion as well as winning the 98' NJCAA HW champ and 2000 NCAA HW champ. I dont know about you, but those are more than petty accomplishments, the guy had an amateur record of 106-5 overall.

so yes per his record and his accomplishments i firmly believe him to be a way better and more experienced wrestler than Cain Velasquez who only bears a 2 time 5A state championship.

This is MMA, not NCAA wrestling, homey! Which means if Cain lands that right hook to Lesnar's spotty jawline and decapitates his jaw off his face, Cain wins the fight. That's what makes this intriguing. Lesnar is not going to dominate the division. He looked like crap against Couture who was in tremendously bad physical shape in that fight and even still was outboxing Lesnar for the most part. Cain will get the job done. And the Lesnar hype will be at an end.

Originally Posted by TBEAR

Brock is a fast as most LHW.... I dont like the guy but he is good. Cain would get manhandled, unless he puts on wieght

Brock's hands are slow as sh*t IMO. LHW? Nah! He's slow with his striking. And he has absolutely no kickboxing ability.

[apardo]

Originally Posted by Rambo

This is MMA, not NCAA wrestling, homey! Which means if Cain lands that right hook to Lesnar's spotty jawline and decapitates his jaw off his face, Cain wins the fight. That's what makes this intriguing. Lesnar is not going to dominate the division. He looked like crap against Couture who was in tremendously bad physical shape in that fight and even still was outboxing Lesnar for the most part. Cain will get the job done. And the Lesnar hype will be at an end.

so your betting the whole fight on one right hook? consider your own advice, homey! its MMA as you said which means Mixed Martial Arts, in case you haven't noticed which means if the right hook is coming way too much, the fight will unlikely stay on their feet. This isnt boxing, had it been then obviously cain would have the advantage and I dont recall anyone ever saying brock had any kickboxing experience.....in fact we are all at peace that he has no kicks in his arsenal...

And P.S only because your striking is slow doesn't mean your takedowns are.....

my personal striking is slow but i guarantee i can take you the ground before you notice your falling. (not you personally but in general)

[Pasha K]

LOL Nog is not at all the best HW of all the time, its Dana again saying bullshit to make Cain and Nog look better than they really are.

We all know who is the real best HW of all time.