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Looking at the fight half way through i thought Bisping was trying to steal a victory. Stay as far out of the danger zone as he could, move in score a take-down now and again for points and just run the clock down that way stealing a decision. He was running away most of the fight&other then the take-downs didn't inflict any damage on Wandy. Didn't even do anything from the take-downs, Wandy just stood back up and actually ended up nearly choking him out on one of those take-downs.

While Wandy was pressing forward looking to engage and only for the bell would of finished the fight. I don't like guys stealing decisions, Wandy won that fight clearly.
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amen to wandy, i think he might be back, 2 out of 3 legends won last night, i wish it was different for nog tho, think maybe hes done
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Bisping definitely tried to outpoint Wandy....and he had great movement. Moved in an out, staying at just out of Wandy's range. I found it closer than some of your descriptions make it out to be.

I gave the fight to Wandy as well because of the damage done. But with about 1 minute left in the fight, I said, oh shit, Bisping might actually win this one, then Wandy came in swinging.

Bisping did stagger Wandy and put him off balance a few times and it looked like it was frustrating Wandy who just kept trying to come in, but Bisping never hurt him or put him in danger.

Bisping tried to fight exactly the way Rashad did in the Thiago fight, but Rashad only got caught in the last round.

I was happy to see Bisping so gracious in defeat in front of the huge pro-Wandy crowd. I knew he would say something different later because if this fight had taken place in the UK, I could see it going the other way.

I loved the look on his face and the reaction after he got choked in the first....classic, same at the end of the 3rd....perfect romoshop worthy pics.
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Can EVERYBODY take a look at Wanderlei's face at the post fight interview with Joe Rogan and acknowledge that he didn't get that way by running into the cage ?

I'm guessing Bisping did that whilst he was running away or hanging around outside the "danger zone" ??

OK so Wanderlei won the fight (a CLOSE fight), let's not take anything away from the fact that Mike Bisping went three rounds with the guy ! Would Mike Bisping be getting flamed as much if he didn't talk as much shit before the fight or didn't come across as having a huge ego. If it was any other fighter would they be getting critisised for NOT staying in the pocket with Wanderlei (cause that's a smart decision !).

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Can EVERYBODY take a look at Wanderlei's face at the post fight interview with Joe Rogan and acknowledge that he didn't get that way by running into the cage ?

I'm guessing Bisping did that whilst he was running away or hanging around outside the "danger zone" ??

OK so Wanderlei won the fight (a CLOSE fight), let's not take anything away from the fact that Mike Bisping went three rounds with the guy ! Would Mike Bisping be getting flames as much if he didn't talk as much shit before the fight or didn't come across as having a huge ego. If it was any other fighter would they be getting critisised for NOT staying in the pocket with Wanderlei (cause that's a smart decision !).
I am not flaming Bisping. I am saying he was outclassed by Wandy ( out of his prime got love him).. Bisping would get MURDERED by Anderson is my point. Bisping while a great fighter dont get me wrong, gets handled by the top of the ladder all day long and twice on Sunday. Does Bisping have a shot sure, but do you think the Bisping you say last night can handle a top guy?
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I am not flaming Bisping. I am saying he was outclassed by Wandy ( out of his prime got love him).. Bisping would get MURDERED by Anderson is my point. Bisping while a great fighter dont get me wrong, gets handled by the top of the ladder all day long and twice on Sunday. Does Bisping have a shot sure, but do you think the Bisping you say last night can handle a top guy?
At the level he is at just now, no I don't think Bisping can hang with the top 5 guys in the division, at the same time I don't think Wanderlei is top 5 in the middleweight division.

On the two occaisions Bisping was in most trouble he put himself in those positions. The guillotine was a result of Bispings poor takedown technique and the shot he took at the end of the 3rd was a result of him backing up straight instead of circling ( Hey, I know EASIER SAID THAN DONE !!).
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I thought it was a close fight. Two things helped Wandy win the fight, experience and the crowd. Silva has been around the block a few times and knows that the last 30 seconds of the round is crucial and really sticks in a judges mind. He dominated the ends of all three rounds. That and the fact that the crowd was so much in his favor won him the fight. Everything Wandy did had the crowd ooohing and ahhhing. That stuff influences a judge subconsciously.

People should not bash Bisping's strategy. If you were a decent overall fighter with no KO power fighting a future hall of famer with vicious power and a BJJ blackbelt what would you do? Trade with him? I don't think so. Try to keep him on the ground? Probably not. Score some takedowns and keep your distance and win a boxing match? Sounds about right.
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At the level he is at just now, no I don't think Bisping can hang with the top 5 guys in the division, at the same time I don't think Wanderlei is top 5 in the middleweight division.

On the two occaisions Bisping was in most trouble he put himself in those positions. The guillotine was a result of Bispings poor takedown technique and the shot he took at the end of the 3rd was a result of him backing up straight instead of circling ( Hey, I know EASIER SAID THAN DONE !!).
I am not sure wher wandy fits in the MW picture, but I know for a fact bisping is barley to ten. Every "big" fight the guy has had is a loss. Rashad Hendo and now Wandy....He has to beat someone beside Jason Day and Kang for me to believe is all I am saying.

Now for Wandy he is still 2 fights away from a title fight IMO. If Wandy can beat Nate Chael or Vitor he gets the shot IMO and if that happens

WAR WANDY, But Anderson KOs you in the first, just a bad matchup for you
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I think the difference between the Machida/Silva fight and this fight was that Machida KO'd him at the end of the 1st, and Wanderlei did it at the end of the fight. I know in boxing, a fighter can only be "saved by the bell" in the last round, and maybe they followed that logic for this fight?
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This is what I don't understand.....

Okay in the Thiago Silva/Lyoto Machida match the ref called the fight AFTER the bell had rung because Thiago couldn't continue. After the Wandy/Bisping fight, articles said it took Bisping about 25-30 seconds to come to/get up. So why wasn't the fight called there? Bisping was done with and the fight should of been stopped there.
To answer your question, probably because there were no more rounds to continue on to. 1st RD I think was def. Bisping's but R2 & R3 were Silva's but were still close. The hate for Bisping I think clouds a lot of peoples judgement on his fights but it doesn't matter the right decision was made.
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