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[evergleam]

Originally Posted by Dr. MMA

It's completely different. I don't know you can't say that. Mir's intent was not a figure of speech. It was clear intent like he wanted to go in there and do it. He said he was going to break his neck and wanted him to the first one to die from octagon related injuries. It's different from all the other fighters saying it like a figure of speech or Dana's (which is the furthest away from it).

That was my point exactly, you can't compare his comments to other fighters figures of speech.

[beau420]

Maybe Dana wants a piece of Hershell and this is his way of shit talking....Dana vs Hershell

Chuck's comments were very similar to Mir's. "I'm gonna try to kill him." Just because you use the word TRY, it doesn't make it any nicer.

If I say, I am going to kill you, or I am going to try and kill you, in my mind, it is no different. Both imply your intent to kill.

[Jaydo06]

Originally Posted by mma #1 fan

one could say Dana was looking out for Herschel

Lulz repped

[goodtimes]

Maybe this will end all the talk of killing each other in MMA. It's pretty stupid, if someone was actually killed in a fight I doubt their would be much celebration. Dana, BJ, and whoever else said it was just as bad as Frank imo.

[snakebite]

I agree with alot of you. The other fighters were just saying it as an expression, mir was saying he litteraly wanted to kill brock by snapping his neck, and wanted him to be the first to die from octagon related injuries. Its completely different. No fan of mma should hope for such a thing. It could possiby be the end of mma if tha were to happen. I mean everyplace that has MMA outlawed would for sure keep there position and many others would ban it. Lets say brock were to tap but mir held on a little longer after the ref stepped in and brock died. That would turn into a homocide and possibly reflect( in rthe law and medias eyes) the mentality of other mma practioners. Think about it, you cant just kill someone and expect nothing to happen.

[U shut ur FACE]

Dana's point in the initial quote was based upon ESPN's coverage of Walkers MMA fight versus the athletes in the UFC. He basically was using Walker was a judging stick of the fighters in the UFC pointing out he's nowhere near their caliber but gets more coverage. It really had nothing to do with Walker being dead or killed lol people tend to take something Dana says and run with it..

[Bloodbeard]

Originally Posted by evergleam

That was my point exactly, you can't compare his comments to other fighters figures of speech.

You can't say they are the same but you can compare them in a way. I know what Dana and Mir said are completely different but if you're not a MMA fan and you see comments like these I think it would strike a similar chord. That is to say that MMA is predictably unsafe! Comparing the imagery of the quotes and you see something, don't you? The president of the UFC the biggest Org in MMA is saying that people can DIE and the ref wouldn't be able to stop it from happening? If you think about it that way you can compare what they are saying and perhaps that is what this article is really trying to get at. I know it's a stretch to compare them but none of these kind of comments are acceptable really.

[Y2JUBAE]

I really see no difference in what Mir and Bj said. Hell, they made a tv series around BJ threatening to kill GSP as hype for the fight. UFC played it on all the tv ads, ppv spots, internet ads, etc.

The only real difference is that BJ said "and I'm not joking!". He went out of his way to let you know, he means just what he said. Of course, he got shamed and blamed it on vaseline but that's another story.

[MrSpanky]

I think the difference is when Frank Mir talks he always sounds so serious. Also "Im going to break his neck" is different from "Im going to kill him" which comes out of every overpumped fighter's mouth.

[The Return Of......]

there is a HUGE difference in saying you think someone would be the first death if they stepped up and fought certain fighters as to call someone out that your not fighing and saying you want to break there neck.

yes others have said it, but most of us have probably said " im gonna kill him" and meant it as a figure of speach not literally murder. what dana said was at walkers age and skill level that he though he would get seriously hurt to the point of death if he fought in the ufc.

frank mir, came out and said he literally wants to break someones neck. in no way was he using it as figure of speech for an up coming fight. he called the man out and said he wants to make him the first death in mma ( it might not be the first mma death but i believe those franks words) to me there is a big difference and you cant really compare what dana said to mir said. well i guess you can compare but only to point out there saying you think someones skill level would get them killed and that you want to kill someone are 2 completely different things