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[CJRockstar]

LoL... Steroids never mattered to Fedor when he was in PRIDE, why is he caring now?

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by noahm

Seriously though, anyone with nothing to hide would address these kind of rumors head on and volunteer for extensive testing, any time, anywhere.

or at LEAST storm out of any interview where they're brought up.

Originally Posted by CJRockstar

LoL... Steroids never mattered to Fedor when he was in PRIDE, why is he caring now?

I don't think they matter to Fedor [which I've said at least three times in this thread alone]. I think they matter to M1, as a corporation, because it's a way for them to lose precious, precious money.

M1 is suing Affliction promotions based on money they spent to co-promote the event domestically and abroad that was wasted when everything hit the fan. They're money hungry bastards to begin with, and they got taken for a boat load with that fiasco.

I'm betting they're just trying to ensure [and insure] that it simply doesn't have a chance to happen again.

rh

[dbader08]

I would like to see Fedor fight somebody that might actually pose somewhat of a challenge...

[STruC1x]

AO's mommy has been giving him Vitamin D Milk since he was 2 years old, that could explain a lot... LoL

[GL Jeff]

Fedor had no issue fighting Barnett and he tested positive twice before. AO has never been proven as a juicer. 7 years and peoplesay he grew too fast. 7 YEARS!!!! It can and has happened. I dont think AO roids. And I think if Fedor,or more importantly M-1 pushes this issue and a fight between the two is avoided it will only look like Fedor is dodging him. Fedor is 1-2 fights away from fighting the top HW in SF.

[jrcbk]

I think it would be a smart move by Strikeforce to make Fedor vs. Werdum an interim title match since AO hasn't fought in over a year. That way, when AO fails to pass the drug test, which aint happening, SF gets Fedor as their HW champ which is what they want.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by GL Jeff

Fedor had no issue fighting Barnett and he tested positive twice before. AO has never been proven as a juicer. 7 years and peoplesay he grew too fast. 7 YEARS!!!! It can and has happened. I dont think AO roids. And I think if Fedor,or more importantly M-1 pushes this issue and a fight between the two is avoided it will only look like Fedor is dodging him.

Either you didn't read the article and the rest of the thread, or you're just reading what you want to see.

It doesn't say that Fedor has any concerns fighting AO. His management does. This isn't even like Soares saying [insert viable threat] "doesn't deserve a title shot" because the fight itself isn't the issue. It's the potential for the fight not to occur because of steriods, causing a huge expense for M1, like the Barnett fight did.

And I'm not sure where you got this:

Fedor is 1-2 fights away from fighting the top HW in SF.

Fedor is the top HW in SF. Undisputedly.

If you were to try to mount the argument that AO is the beltholder, it wouldn't hold water. AO wasn't ranked when he fought for the belt, and he fought another guy who wasn't ranked for the belt, before subsequently refusing to defend it on multiple occasions.

If/When Fedor wins the Strikeforce belt, he brings legitimacy to it. He doesn't earn legitimacy from it, or lack legitimacy without it. There is no credible MMA site or fan who knows a goddamn thing about MMA who doesn't have Fedor ranked as the #1 HW in the world. His p4p status may be--foolishly--debated, but his HW dominance is undisputed.

Most sites who actually know what they're doing even have Werdum ranked above Overeem.

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[GL Jeff]

Originally Posted by rivethead

Either you didn't read the article and the rest of the thread, or you're just reading what you want to see.

It doesn't say that Fedor has any concerns fighting AO. His management does. This isn't even like Soares saying [insert viable threat] "doesn't deserve a title shot" because the fight itself isn't the issue. It's the potential for the fight not to occur because of steriods, causing a huge expense for M1, like the Barnett fight did.

And I'm not sure where you got this:


Fedor is the top HW in SF. Undisputedly.

If you were to try to mount the argument that AO is the beltholder, it wouldn't hold water. AO wasn't ranked when he fought for the belt, and he fought another guy who wasn't ranked for the belt, before subsequently refusing to defend it on multiple occasions.

If/When Fedor wins the Strikeforce belt, he brings legitimacy to it. He doesn't earn legitimacy from it, or lack legitimacy without it. There is no credible MMA site or fan who knows a goddamn thing about MMA who doesn't have Fedor ranked as the #1 HW in the world. His p4p status may be--foolishly--debated, but his HW dominance is undisputed.

Most sites who actually know what they're doing even have Werdum ranked above Overeem.

rh

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I didnt say Fedor wasnt the top HW in SF. I said hes 1-2 fights away from fighting the other top HW's in SF.

And Fedor is part of M-1, he owns a share, so what M-1 says hes saying, no?

[fishy]

Originally Posted by rivethead

Agreed.

Werdum's ground game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AO's striking

rh

edit: I'd also say Werdums striking >>>> AO's groundgame

I agree with the first part of the statement but I'm not so sure about the second part. Looking at it statistically, AO has submitted far more people then Werdum has finished via strikes. Werdum is kinda sloppy on the feet anyway.

[TBEAR]

There is one more way too look at this.... if the great FEDOR got Koed there is an excuse.....


Roided AO hit me with a injection knee.........not fair.