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[maxp84z]

Fedor still owes Strikeforce 2 more fights. M-1 has no room to complain about anything. They knew the deal before Fedor fought on CBS. This is breach of contract on M-1s behalf. I hate M1.

[GL Jeff]

I find it hard to believe that M-1 dosent understand that Fedor has very little fame in the US. Hes not very public, he dosent talk to the press much. He refuses to really cater to the American audience but they expect huge amounts of money. Fedor might be the greatest HW, and one of the p4p best fighters in the world, but not enough people know it. I think Fedor is going to have his last few years of fighting squandered because of his management team.And thats a shame. Im very happy Gegard left M-1.

[jdwall]

as long as fedor is w/ m-1 he aint gonna be in ufc, hence the reasoning i beleive mousasi just left recently

[noahm]

Originally Posted by noahm

Where did he say he wasn't getting paid enough? Just curious.

Originally Posted by Pashak

It is written in the article:

"Fedor and his management team clearly believe they didn't get paid enough for Fedor's first CBS event for Strikeforce"

Yes, I see where the person writing the article says it, but it is clearly just conjecture. In no way can we say that this is about them unhappy with money. He is still fighting

[ILJO]

Yeah this is just an article begging for hits.

There is absolutely zero news here. For all we know, it's Strikeforce that is to blame here. Maybe they are trying to renegotiate his contract or something (not an uncommon practice)

Everyone is quick to pull out the "M-1 sucks" card and I don't disagree but let's hold judgment until the facts come out.

[Chricton]

Originally Posted by Pashak

I dont understand, he has a contract with Strikeforce yes or not? Because if he has a contract, if M-1 made a deal with Strikeforce I think they should do exactly what was written in the contract.

And they are doing whatever they want, they dont want Fedor to fight in April, then they dont want Fedor to fight in Dream, now they dont want Fedor to fight either on May, then WTF they want?

How is that he fought in November, got paid and now they are complaining that Fedor did not received enough money. Why are they saying it now? Why they didnt say it months ago?
BTW I think that the amount of money was agreed even before the match with Rogers, so then what is the problem?

M-1 probably put something in the contract allowing them to renegotiate. Strikeforce probably bent over 14 times during that initial contract write up. Think about it. Dana & Lorenzo were willing to take a few punches trying to sign him. Nobody really knows what Coker had to do to sign him. "Co-Promotion" is just a term that probably has far more drastic realities behind it.

M-1 just wants shit loads of money. Probably around or even greater then the figure the UFC offered him. Something Strikeforce cannot do without digging a hole EliteXC style.

Or, like the above poster said, it's the other way around, and Strikeforce is the one trying to lower his fee, something they may have been in over their heads with to begin with.

[rivethead]

KidNate from BloodyElbow sucks. He just plain sucks. His writing sucks, his rankings suck, he's a hack who should not be allowed near a keyboard.

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

A lot of us, myself included, have bitched and moaned for over a year now about Overeem's unwillingness to defend his title, but does anyone seriously think we'd get many more defenses out of it if Fedor were champion?

I do. I don't even think the two can be compared in any reasonable sense.

Originally Posted by The Return Of......

at any rate, if ed soarse is doing damage to anderson silva legacy then M1 cant be helping fedor. i will say that after all this shit i find it hard to fault or blame dana in anyway for not getting the deal done. every time i read a post about M1 it looks more and more like its all on them

Once again, the two circumstances are entirely different.

M1 lost shitloads of money when Affliction tanked. They're looking to not have that happen again.

It's not a matter of them saying they don't want to fight a legitimate contender, as Soares does every time one comes up. This is a matter of them saying they'll be happy to fight as long as they're insured something like the Barnett fiasco doesn't happen again.

rh

[Y2JUBAE]

Originally Posted by noahm

Where did he say he wasn't getting paid enough? Just curious.

4th paragraph down first sentence?

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SF needs to drop Fedor asap! He is going to be the death of them. He will bleed them dry financially.

It is obvious the M-1 style of negotiating is mafia style in which to get something you have to give more and you have to give a part of your business to them.

I think UFC offered Fedor much more than what he is worth just to say they have him. Dana is a power hungry man who loves to brag about having the best. He knows the majority of mma fans think Fedor is the best so it wasn't a financial situation where having Fedor makes him that much more money, it was a Pride situation... so to speak. That being said, i'm sure Dana set his reserve very high for negotiations. But, the ONE thing they can't do, is ENDANGER their company for one man.

Why do you think UFC didn't get Fedor? Same reason they are number 1. Smart business. SF was desperate to compete and Fedor's camp knew they were an easy mark. Desperation leads to bad business decisions.

SF signed an unproven p4p fighter living off of a legend. The only real competition he has had was Rogers who almost took him to the woodshed, a rookie.

What needs to happen is Fedor needs to go prove himself in the UFC, 3 good fights, then he can truly justify the money and power that he requires to sign a deal.

It shows me a lot when Fedor only signs with either desperate companies or shady mafia influenced companies ran by looney japanese businessmen who can't decide if they are running an mma or pro wrestling organization.

May sound like I'm dogging Fedor but I'm really not. It's moreso his management who I feel are leeches. Fedor obviously has no problem working with them so that does say a bit about himself, he's a highly intelligent guy so I know nobodys pulling any wool over his eyes. His intelligence is why he does not lose... combined with an uncanny resistance to pain...

I think Fedor would put on some of the greatest fights ever in the UFC against the likes of CV for starters... 2 machines... I haven't given up on this Dream... SO to speak!

My point is that, I don't think anyone Fedor has beaten in the last 3 or so years would stand a chance in the UFC except maybe Rogers. Hell, I'm trying to think of an opponent Fedor ever fought that would stand a chance in the UFC today? I can't think of one! CC? Nog? Obviously not top contenders. Sure, they aren't the same Nog and CC that fought Fedor, but since Fedor doesn't face people like Mir, Dos Santos, CV, etc... How do we know Fedor is the same Fedor that faced Nog and CC?

Age takes a toll on fighters, it seems to happen overnight. One night you get KO'ed and the world says you are done. Everyone said it as soon as Chuck and Matt Hughes lost and they were on the top of the mountain for years. Fedor has been unproven for years and as impressive as the win over Rogers was, the trouble that Rogers gave him still leaves doubts in my mind as to whether Fedor is the same Fedor or not. I will need to see him against a top level fighter to decide. And I sure as F don't mean Josh or AO! Those two would find themselves waking up bloodied in the octagon so fast it wouldn't be funny. If they could pass a drug test that is.

[noahm]

Maybe I should have clarified since nobody seems to get it. Where does Fedor or M-1 say that they are not getting paid enough? Not some hack writer making an assumption based on nothing.

I can say "It's obvious Anderson Silva is not happy with the UFC." Does that make it true? Why should I even try? There are a huge number of people that think Saddam Housein blew up the WTC because some jackass implied it.

[U shut ur FACE]

Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE

SF needs to drop Fedor asap! He is going to be the death of them. He will bleed them dry financially.

I agree, I don't think that Fedor is worth the money they're paying him in a sense and I mean that purely from a interest standpoint. It doesn't make sense for them to have him on board given his popularity in the U.S. when you have fighters like Diaz and Lee. I enjoy the fact that SF is trying to put on good fights but at this point, I want them to stay alive so that fighters like Henderson or Rampage or whoever has negotiating power with the UFC; or at least have an option. If you take into consideration the numbers: Fedor vs. Rogers averaged out around 3.79 million viewers while Slice vs. Ferguson peaked at 6.5 million; it shows you what the American audience is looking for in their fights... Crappy fights with a name attached.

Fedor hasn't been really introduced to the Americans as the best fighter out there mainly because he's signed with organizations that don't market their fucking fighters. It would have almost been better had he signed with UFC for a 3 fight deal or so and then gone elsewhere because at least more people would know who he is. That is very risky though given the fighters the UFC would have thrown at him, he would have risked far more than fighting Brett Rogers or Werdum IMO but who knows...