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03-02-2010, 01:02 PM
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anything can happen eve know hardy baddly out classed
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03-02-2010, 01:52 PM
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You can call me crazy but I think Hardy has a decent chance. His skillset isn't the best matchup but it seems like he won't have to battle with nerves and he def. has power in his fist with pretty good speed. With those betting odds I'd put my money on the upset.
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03-02-2010, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TBEAR This is MMA dude, Hardy has a chance.
Can he win yes, but will he ...we will see in 4 weeks. | Wisdom comes in few words: This is MMA. The odds are that GSP will have another absolutely dominant performance, but if his defense is poor for a second then Hardy could blast him. He has some juice.
I think that Hardy had a very quick (undeservedly quick) route to the title. He didn't have to fight any of the top guys at 170 to get to GSP, but I'm glad this match was made. It's about time for GSP to have rematches with Fitch, Alves, and Koscheck and somewhere in there he'll need to fight Daley, but considering the way he dominated all of those guys (except Daley of course - that will come) I'm glad we get to see him against some fresh talent. I don't want the UFCs 170-lb division to become a few tough guys at the top that just keep cycling through each other.
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03-02-2010, 02:14 PM
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heh i think giving up on takedown defense is quite a silly thing to be saying in interviews.. i mean its totally cool if youre talking about that in strategy at the gym but in an interview it sends a lot of the wrong messages..
by saying that its better to worry about fighting off your back instead of working on TDD its saying youre taking this fight defensively and youre not attacking because what is Hardy going to do off his back except take an ENORMOUS amount of punishment... WTF kind of confidence does Hardy have off his back vs the most dominant top game in the division.. Hardy's strength is his stand up and why wont he work his TDD to keep it in his position of strength vs GSPs incredible ground game... i mean yes it is very wishful thinking to think he could stop all of GSPs takedowns but if he can stop 1 cause a scramble and get a clean punch in there vs nothing he can do on the ground...
The way to beat GSP is to take him completly off his game quickly... and once u get him off that game you better have that same intensity.. especially if he makes it back to the corner (see BJ Penn/GSP 1) i dont think GSP is at the point in his career where he is going to make the silly mistake he made vs Hughes.. so that only leaves 2 possible chances of victory for anyone to face GSP not named A. Silva.. 1) GSP comes out like a mental midget (like vs Serra he defiantly was not himself) 2) He gets KTFO'd...
based on Hardy's most recent fight he does not have the skills to finish GSP.. sure he can rock him but his finishing skills are shit.. GSP has really good recovery time and can get into a scramble to put him in a safe position to recover... So Hardy will have to be incredibly accurate with his follow up punches like Serra was instead of taking him down.. because GSP will recover sweep him and put him in a dangerous postion
But like all people who actually watch MMA know that ANYTHING can happen no matter the matchup.. yes even Fedor can lose but that is like a 1% chance... everyone else has their own upset % and GSPs, BJs, A. Silvas chances of getting upset is quite low but is definitely possible
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03-02-2010, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre This will be the most one sided domination in the history of the UFC.
Mark my words, GSP is going to go into this fight smart, shoot and slam Hardy and grind the utter shit out of Hardy on his way to a round 2 stoppage, if not within the first minute. | Strong words! Consider them marked.  I'm a GSP fan so I hope you're right.
I've been thinking a lot about this matchup lately because everyone is completely counting Hardy out and saying he's only got a puncher's chance but GSP hasn't fought a striker of this style before so I don't know how he'll handle it. To be honest I thought Swick would give GSP a hard time and then Hardy dominated him and they both have a similar boxing style. Long live the runner!!!
My prediction; Hardy rocks GSP in R1 ONCE and then GSP dominates until an accidental eye poker occurs in R3 and shortly thereafter Hardy gets the TKO with about 1minute left in the round.
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03-02-2010, 03:35 PM
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Its funny he said "coast to a decision again...alves and especially fitch, got brutally beaten in those fights. They should get props for being able to take those beatings.
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03-02-2010, 04:10 PM
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If Alves couldn't get a really good shot in on GSP in the entire five rounds without giving up all of his takedown defense against the WW champ with a fucking pulled groin, Dan Hardy with all of his point boxing isn't in too good of a position. I understand they're different styles of fighters, but everybody acts like GSP "getting caught" is something of a statistical inevitability, whereas it's more or less a fluke that won't happen again, and hasn't happened since he completely revamped his shit with Greg Jackson.
Facts are facts and so far, it's a FACT that BJ Penn's got some seriously great boxing to go along with phenomenal BJJ and he got OWNED by GSP. Thiago Alves has some ferocious and vicious striking to go along with massive size at WW and he got OWNED by GSP. Dan Hardy has yet to finish a big fight in the UFC against middle of the road fighters who aren't the level of Fitch, Alves, Penn or even Hughes, has a less than heralded groundgame and people are just saying Hardy's gonna catch him so they can all sound edgy and have a sexy, original pick and it's NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
A puncher's chance is all Hardy has, because it's all he's got at his disposal. I implore all of you to go back and watch the Gono and Davis fights and honestly tell me that that fighter really looks like he could contend NOT with GSP, but even with Kos, Fitch, Alves, Daley etc, because in all honestly, he's not even in their class. Hardy dominated Swick, because Swick likewise had only beaten a less experienced Ben Saunders, Goulet, Davis and Burkman, again they're not world beaters(but Burkman is the shit!). Swick's toughest challenge was gonna be Kampmann who walked into Daley and never got back up and this is all just a serendipitous string of shit luck that's somehow landed Hardy in the title shot. Give him Kos or Fitch or Alves and Hardy goes DOWN, but he didn't have to face top flight challenges to get to where he is and that's why he's a joke. He's a WW Michael Bisping, all hype and zero substance as a top tier fighter.
Matt Serra was a once in a lifetime fluke and it's not called twice in a lifetime for a reason and I don't think anybody whose watched the evolution of GSP can really say he's got too much to worry about. GSP has become something of an untouchable phenom at 170 and people just wanna see him fall and are all "calling it", yet haven't learned during the last three title fights, that when they called GSP to lose, to actual deserving and skilled fighters, he showed up looking even BETTER and dominated these fighters into oblivion.
MMA is certainly not a "sure thing", but I'll say it again, if there ever was a sure thing title fight, it's this one. GSP will look like he's sparring and will wipe the mat with Hardy's mohawk on his way to backflip breakdancing. I fear it's gonna be a Lesnar/Mir II level of punishment.
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03-02-2010, 04:17 PM
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stop yelling you're scaring me
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03-02-2010, 04:22 PM
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Hardy offers absolutely nothing to GSP in this fight and I dont see it going too well. Dan should have had to fight at least Fitch, Kos, or Alves before getting this match up. Georges is going to brutalize him, as this is the most one sided title pairing since Nate Quarry and Rich Franklin, and I dont see this bout lasting much longer.
The Kos vs Daley winner should get the next shot at the champ, and I'm hoping it is Josh. Nothing against British fighters, but It seems like everyone the UFC is trying to establish has an annoying chip on their shoulder.
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03-02-2010, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Xanatos stop yelling you're scaring me | Are you talkin' ta me Xanatos,  cuz I'm the only one here
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