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[TBEAR]

Originally Posted by xdevilhawk138x

I'm getting tired of hearing both Vadim Finkelstein and Ed Soares

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[KevoOnTheRadio]

So he doesn't want the AO fight because he "did not reach the desired level to challenge Fedor", and Fedor doesn't fight for belts.

He'll fight Barnett, but only if he tests clean.

The Werdum fight has apparently fallen through?

So wtf does he want? He's beaten Arlovsky, he's beaten Rogers. Who else is there for him to fight that doesn't get Finky's manties in a bind?

If I'm missing something please explain it to me, preferably with crayon and fresh contruction paper.
But is there no one outside of the UFC that he wants to fight?

[Xanatos]

Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio

So he doesn't want the AO fight because he "did not reach the desired level to challenge Fedor", and Fedor doesn't fight for belts.

He'll fight Barnett, but only if he tests clean.

The Werdum fight has apparently fallen through?

So wtf does he want? He's beaten Arlovsky, he's beaten Rogers. Who else is there for him to fight that doesn't get Finky's manties in a bind?

If I'm missing something please explain it to me, preferably with crayon and fresh contruction paper.
But is there no one outside of the UFC that he wants to fight?

I think it's more that there's no one outside the UFC that there's a point in fighting. Strikeforce has the only talented heavyweights at this point that aren't in the UFC. Whose he going to fight? jeff monson? sweet....

they're talking themselves in circles. they want to fight overeem, but only if he pisses clean. but now he doesnt want the fight cause he's not interested in belts, he just wants big name fights. well the only big name fight you have left in front of you is overeem, and werdum (who he'd fight if he won the title anyways)

i dont know what this verbal press maze is leading up to, if anything, but there's no more competition in the smaller promotions. there just isn't

[Pasha K]

LOL at "Exactly. We are more interested in fighting Josh Barnett, who is currently disqualified until September. When he returns from his suspension and if he tests clean, we might consider fighting him"

So they are going to wait till september, then they are going to wait till Barnett tests clean, if that happens, then maybe they are going to consider the option of a fight with him.
So, we can say that in the best of cases this fight will take place in December?

They dont want Overeem, apparently they dont want Werdum either. Ok, so it means that the next time we will se fedor fight will be not before December?

Really great.

[The Return Of......]

M1 is only hurting fedor. I mean he says he wants big fights.....well a fight is only as big as you promote it. ok thats not entirely true, some fights maybe dont need to be promoted as heavily......but even those fights benifit from good promoting.

this is how i see it. fedor chose to fight for M1, M1 chose strikeforce. now, one fight, which was a pretty competitive fight, and now no one is good enough??? come on, they knew there options before they signed were limited so this shit about AO and Werdum not being good enough is bullshit. hell he could of done fought barnett in dream.

shit let me do the marketing and promoting of fedor vs AO in may or june and i could make it a huge fight. any damn one of us could and anyone with half a brain could. so if they are looking for a big fight for fedor....well they gotta go out and promote it. i dont think M1 can do this. i think this is one of there short comings as well as one of strikeforces short comings. the UFC can promote and market a fight incredibly.

bottom line if they want big fights, they are gonna have to put some effort in it as well instead of hoping someone just pops up in front of them. cuz if you take away the ufc fighters, and the fighters they dont want to fight, add the fact in they want big time fights and that takes away some of the newer lessere know guys and well you got a guy who might very well be the best ever, who wont fight, but wont retire and has fought some questionable fights over the last few years until recently.

[RonPaulForPeace]

fedor can fight barnett in dream since theres the team up with sf and m1 and barnett signed with them

[Mac]

M-1 is hurting Strikeforce, They are saying they only worry about fighting top competition and as others said, apparently AO and Werdum don't fit that mold. Why are you in Strikeforce then, they don't have anybody to compete with you since their top 2 fighters aren't worthy.

AO hasn't done anything to prove he deserves to fight Fedor? Yet Hong Man Choi, Matt Lindland and Mark Hunt did? They were saying earlier that they might not be interested in fighting AO due to drug testing issues, but now they say Barnett is at the top of their list even though he has continually got caught failing drug tests. I'm not saying Fedor is in any way scared of AO, but it sounds to me like his management is.

If he isn't worried about titles and fighting the top guys Strikeforce has available, what's the point? Long term he's no good to Strikeforce if he won't try to be their HW champ. They are basically giving M-1 big portions of shows to have Fedor as a loan. So when he leaves and says they have no competition for him their HW division is automatically a joke and has no credibility.

Not good business by Strikeforce wasting their time and money with a guy who isn't interested in helping grow the company.

If all Fedor cares about is competition and Strikeforce can't provide it then what is there? Dream has no one. UFC isn't happening unless he dumps M-1. He might as well wait as long as he can to fight Barnett and then retire.

[jlruthven84]

So let's see what we have here:

1) They won't fight Overeem unless he tests clean, despite the fact that he hasn't pissed a dirty sample yet (emphasis on yet...I still have my doubts about horse steaks).

2) They WILL fight Barnett, who's been nabbed on steroids three times, and they'll probably fight him over in Japan, where they don't test.

3) They won't fight Overeem PERIOD, because he hasn't beaten the desired level of competition. Fair enough, but...

4) They WILL fight Barnett, whose last three wins have come over Gilbert Yvel, Pedro Rizzo, and Jeff Monson.

Am I missing something here?

Much as I hate to say it, Fedor's management is ducking Overeem. I don't believe for a minute that Fedor himself would duck anybody, but he's gone on record saying that his actual involvement in contract/fight negotiations is almost nil.

It's just sad that a fighting legacy this great is tarnished by this kind of questionable dealing.

[amosaback]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

I dont see this going on much longer...that either being Strikeforce as an organization or the partnership between M-1 and Strikeforce which could open doors to Fedor going to the UFC, as slim as those might be. This is just so fucked. It seems to me that M-1 doesn't want anything to do with Strikeforce.

I don't know what M-1 does want except to hitch it's cart to Fedor and rake in money. M-1 is a freaking joke and would be dead in the water without the association with "the world's greatest (least active) fighter".

[macewen]

Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE

Yet another eye rolling statement. Fedor is above titles. LMAO! Damn it's hard to be a Fedor fan when statements like this continue to roll out.

He's a man. The end. Sure, great fighter but there are plenty of great fighters who actually face competition and are not above anything.

What a struggle. I really want to appreciate and be a fedor fan but damn.

I have to agree with you, super hard to be a fedor fan with this kind of non sense