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[Daellusx]

There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Bowls makes his living off of fighting. If his hand is broken then he cant fight. If he cant fight then he cant pay his bills, feed himself, or train properly. He's not making six figures per fight so why risk up to a year of not being able to fight for one pay day? There will be other fights and there will be other title bouts. To me that's not pussing out, that's using your brain.

Lets not forget that this is a sport. This is not a life and death situation and it was not a once in a lifetime chance. There was no reason for him to keep fighting with a broken hand. Now he can heal up his hand and come back for a rematch fight that will probably be more interesting because some people will think that the only reason he lost was the broken hand.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by mma #1 fan

well then why did you get into the fight your not black and your not mexcian so i dont know why you did any thing ( and don't give me no it prison and you have to fight rember your race was not part of the race war ) it not hard to walk to the side of the yard there not fighting on.

You obviously have never been white and in a prison riot. Whites are severely outnumbered in the Texas prison system and aren't well liked by many people. It's not like I went after the firt person I could find and it's very hard to walk to the other side of the yard when you're in the middle of everything. It's not like I'm Neo, can slow down time and calmy walk away. I wish I could of.

[mma #1 fan]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

You obviously have never been white and in a prison riot. Whites are severely outnumbered in the Texas prison system and aren't well liked by many people. It's not like I went after the firt person I could find and it's very hard to walk to the other side of the yard when you're in the middle of everything. It's not like I'm Neo, can slow down time and calmy walk away. I wish I could of.

your right about one of them I have always been white. I have done some time . but I did what most people do I watched my back , did not talk shit . I never backed down no matter the odds. look were I was may have been smaller and not as hard but if you did not have all your sides covered u had no right to be in the middle of the yard. ( that was are rules if you could get bind sidded you did not go there )

[Xanatos]

way to go to prison

[Ramma]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

I still won't change my stance...Bowles pussed out. I have NEVER seen a fight stopped because of a hand injury. Cruz didn't and he wanted it more.

*Sorry for the typo in the title*

So Bowles pussed out via doctor's stoppage? Interesting.

YOU STILL HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THIS FACT. So please, address it. I think you are ignoring it because it completely ruins your stance and makes you look foolish.


P.S. This is the last time I am going to warn you about a sig being too big.

Originally Posted by Mac

Well, when you get in there and experience the same thing he did, you can call him a puss. Until then you shouldn't pass judgement when you have no idea what he went through.

Co-signed.

Originally Posted by roaddawg

But ultimiately isn't it the doctors decision? I thought they stopped the fight?

Yes, the doctor did stop the fight, which is why I am wondering what Sakara is talking about. I don't get how you can be "soft" or "weak"
when you didn't quit. The doctor said, "you must stop".

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by Ramma

[B]YOU STILL HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THIS FACT. So please, address it. I think you are ignoring it because it completely ruins your stance and makes you look foolish.

Obviously you didn't read all the posts because I took back what I said. Unless you're just trying to stir up shit. In that case you did a good job. So what do you want? And to answer your question (seeing how I dropped this 2 pages ago) how did the doctor stop it? How did the doctor know his hand was broken? He was told by either Bowles or Bowles corner that the hand was broken. I think fighting to win the belt or fighting for the number 1 contendership makes someone fight harder than someone fighting to keep their belt. Look at Urijah, look at Dominick Cruz, look at Brandon Vera, look at any other fighter who finished on with injuries, they are usually fighting to get the belt or to get that next spot at the belt. I think Bowles thought a few things....a) this guy is whipping my ass and I don't see this turning around, b) I won the belt already and I can get there again when I'm healthy, c) why risk more injury when I don't think I can win this fight. I already took back what I said but these points are to answer your question. I'm just wondering where this type of reaction was when everyone was bashing Kalib Starnes when it showed that he had a broken foot. He's not a puss. I moved on, you want to too?

[Xanatos]

Don't make me roll up my sleeves.

[Ramma]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Obviously you didn't read all the posts because I took back what I said. Unless you're just trying to stir up shit. In that case you did a good job. So what do you want? And to answer your question (seeing how I dropped this 2 pages ago) how did the doctor stop it? How did the doctor know his hand was broken? He was told by either Bowles or Bowles corner that the hand was broken. I think fighting to win the belt or fighting for the number 1 contendership makes someone fight harder than someone fighting to keep their belt. Look at Urijah, look at Dominick Cruz, look at Brandon Vera, look at any other fighter who finished on with injuries, they are usually fighting to get the belt or to get that next spot at the belt. I think Bowles thought a few things....a) this guy is whipping my ass and I don't see this turning around, b) I won the belt already and I can get there again when I'm healthy, c) why risk more injury when I don't think I can win this fight. I already took back what I said but these points are to answer your question. I'm just wondering where this type of reaction was when everyone was bashing Kalib Starnes when it showed that he had a broken foot. He's not a puss. I moved on, you want to too?

My M.O. on these forums is to stir shit, didn't you get rivethead's memo?

If the doctor stopped it, obviously he had some sort of look at the hand, move the hand around, ask him to flex it, etc. It isn't like the WEC can just make it up or the corner can go "His hand is broken", and the doctor says "Okay! Broke hand, doctor stoppage."

It doesn't work like that. People place bets on winners, ways of winning, etc. If it did work like that, you'd see people getting paid off to fake injuries. If the corner stopped it, or he stopped it, it would be labeled as such.


As for Kalib Starnes, what he did really doesn't compare to what happened to Brian Bowles. But, let's analyze the broken foot:

The foot thing is B.S. my friend. Kalib claimed he broke it on the first kick he threw. Well, you see.... Kalib threw a few kicks that first round... missed with each one. Exhibit A:



Sorry, no exhibit B. That is all the proof I need.

And yes, I would like to move on as well.

[joeyt]

Interesting interview with Cruz regarding the fight.

Video, Dominick Cruz on Brian Bowles: “My hands is broken too, my foot is broken, I was willing to go three more rounds”|URDirt.com

I guess everyone has to take his opinion as gospel since he's been in there. So maybe I'm not passing judgment as much as I am agreeing with Cruz.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Don't say that Joey...dont say it!

And Ramma....I was told not to try and assume what went on in the cage and what may or may not have been broken and then Ramma you went ahead and said that his foot wasn't broken. You don't know if it was or wasn't.