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[mattc25]

Originally Posted by lwbrewer

Maybe I missed it some where but exactly who stopped the fight did he go to the doc or did the doc catch it when he was checking the blood? Also comparing two diffrent fighters breaks isn't fair as their most likely not the same. So with out the doc's report from the one who viewed his x-ray we can only speculate about it. My take on it he was aready losing 2 rounds his bread and butter offense hampered this is only a battle not the war. So he can fight a nother day. Plus I think it would of sucked if he would of pulled off a victory then been out for a year then never returned. Just my two cents

....exactly bro,well said...I would rep you,but I need to spread the love apparently.

[TheKidInside]

OK i am sorry guys but...I have to take Sakara's stance on this. 1. Urijah Faber broke his two metacarpals and dislocated his thumb...did he give up? not on your life! He said himself when he went to his corner that he thought he broke his hand and his trainer didn't understand English but even if he did Urijah didn't want the fight stopped and would've been mad as hell if someone threw the towel in...now why would he be so "stupid"? he explains it as such "it's like a real life fight, if i was in a real fight in the parking lot I can't tell the other guy oh I broke my hand see ya later" that is the mentallity you need to be a FIGHTER. Real fighters leave it in the cage, all of their heart and soul needs to be in that moment! no distractions, no future or past thoughts, concentrate on winning the G-ddamm fight!!! and if you think that's crazy you're not a real fighter.

Go read Got Fight? Forrest Griffin says himself if you're a nice guy you have no place in the ring and that every fighter needs to be insane because, let's face it, you're life is about FIGHTING! So, on some level you must be LOCO!!!

-rep for Bowles
+rep for Cruz
+++rep for Urijah Faber!

[Happypants]

Originally Posted by TheKidInside

"it's like a real life fight, if i was in a real fight in the parking lot I can't tell the other guy oh I broke my hand see ya later" that is the mentallity you need to be a FIGHTER. Real fighters leave it in the cage, all of their heart and soul needs to be in that moment! no distractions, no future or past thoughts, concentrate on winning the G-ddamm fight!!! and if you think that's crazy you're not a real fighter.

Go read Got Fight? Forrest Griffin says himself if you're a nice guy you have no place in the ring and that every fighter needs to be insane because, let's face it, you're life is about FIGHTING! So, on some level you must be LOCO!!!

-rep for Bowles
+rep for Cruz
+++rep for Urijah Faber!

So what you saying are fighters should be mindless people whose only goal should be to beat up the person in front of them at all costs to their personal wellfare and future well being. I hate reading all this shit about if you are a fighter you should be ready to die in there. That is stupid, do you think anyone in their right mind goes into the cage ready to die?

You have some fucked up mentality that if you quite fighting without being knocked out cold then you don't deserve to be in the sport. It was pretty stupid for Urijah to continue fighting with two broken hands. He could have seriously fucked them up more then they already were and ended his career or created a much longer healing period. He didn't get any closer to winning the fight by continuing he just got more respect from people, respect that he didn't need as everyone already respected him. The only reason (from my perspective) that he kept fighting was his own personal pride.

Bowles was losing the fight with his most dangerous weapon out of commission. He was losing the fight and had an injury that would probably prevent him from winning. He did the start thing and will come back stronger than if he would of continued to fight.

[TheKidInside]

Originally Posted by Happypants

So what you saying are fighters should be mindless people whose only goal should be to beat up the person in front of them at all costs to their personal wellfare and future well being. I hate reading all this shit about if you are a fighter you should be ready to die in there. That is stupid, do you think anyone in their right mind goes into the cage ready to die?

You have some fucked up mentality that if you quite fighting without being knocked out cold then you don't deserve to be in the sport. It was pretty stupid for Urijah to continue fighting with two broken hands. He could have seriously fucked them up more then they already were and ended his career or created a much longer healing period. He didn't get any closer to winning the fight by continuing he just got more respect from people, respect that he didn't need as everyone already respected him. The only reason (from my perspective) that he kept fighting was his own personal pride.

Bowles was losing the fight with his most dangerous weapon out of commission. He was losing the fight and had an injury that would probably prevent him from winning. He did the start thing and will come back stronger than if he would of continued to fight.

thanks for the input. you being a fighter clearly have more of an insight than urijah faber or forrest griffin. you are the best. i am sorry and retract my previous statement. bowles is the smarterst fighter that's ever live, with more heart and brains and will to win than anyone else...EVER.

[beau420]

I never said anything bad about Bowles, I think if a fighter can't continue, then he can't...and he doesn't want to....he has already lost in his mind, and I really don't want to watch another couple of rounds with a guy who doesn't want to fight.

Heal up, comes back and fight again.

I find it funny as fuck this quote from the column:

As an orthopedic surgeon, I realize how painful and tricky a hand fracture can be.

HAHahahhaha.....really? This guy realizes how painful it can be. They should have quoted a fighter or anyone who has broken their hand...and when I think orthopedic surgeon, I do not think of a guy who has had either broken bones in his hand (which doesn't hurt that much) it is the nerve damage that hurts the most.

I find it funny that there is a doctor who is standing up for Bowles....I didn't think he needed standing up for.

If anyone takes what people say on msg boards seriously, then they obviously don't read them much or know much about computers.

[LefthookStcrook]

Yeah im not a big fan of seeing fighters fighting with an injury.

I forget what fight it was against, but I remember a fight with Ed Herman and at the end of the 2nd round his knee gave out similiar to Patrick Cote's, it was bad.

The bell rings and he gets up and barley makes it to his corner hopping on one leg. I remember thinking " Oh the fights over". But no, call it balls or stupidity, or lack of judgment on the ref's part, But Ed Herman comes out for the 3rd round.

I'm thinking "OMF what's he doing? This isnt going to go good" He litterally throws ONE kick at the start of the round and go down in pain screaming.

Not something I wanna see on every card.

(After doing some research It was Ed Hermans last fight at UFC 102 against Aaron Simpson)

[lwbrewer]

I get a kick out of how most compare broken hands with no doctors report. There are many bones in a hand so for two fighters to have the same break is very rare and what else might off been wrong. Many athletes’ have played with broken bones but something as simple as a hurt big toe has ended many career’s It's Cruz's day to shine lets dwell on that instead.

[Xanatos]

Originally Posted by Lefthookstcrook

Yeah im not a big fan of seeing fighters fighting with an injury.

I agree, this is their job, and their career. When a hockey player hurts himself halfway through the game, they take him off and get him some help, they don't put him back on the ice.

There's a difference between fighting through fatigue, or continuing to fight with a gaping cut on your forehead like joe daddy against Penn. Bowles is young enough and still relevent enough to take this loss, and fight back and go at his title again. what if he kept fighting and mashed his hand to nothing and had to hang up the gloves.

It's just silly in my mind to do something like that.

[TheKidInside]

Originally Posted by lwbrewer

I get a kick out of how most compare broken hands with no doctors report. There are many bones in a hand so for two fighters to have the same break is very rare and what else might off been wrong. Many athletes’ have played with broken bones but something as simple as a hurt big toe has ended many career’s It's Cruz's day to shine lets dwell on that instead.

shows how little you know about this sport from the medical point of view. as a pre-med student and a boxer (8-16 yrs old) there's something called a boxer's fracture aka broken/fractured metacarpal. this is not very "rare" but quiet the opposite and VERY COMMON.

source or stfu.

I'll start... Boxer's fracture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia wow how very "rare" it is for someone who strikes to fracture their metacarpals...in fact it's even more RARE for it to be the 4th or 5th

[LefthookStcrook]

Originally Posted by TheKidInside

shows how little you know about this sport from the medical point of view. as a pre-med student and a boxer (8-16 yrs old) there's something called a boxer's fracture aka broken/fractured metacarpal. this is not very "rare" but quiet the opposite and VERY COMMON.

source or stfu.

I'll start... Boxer's fracture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia wow how very "rare" it is for someone who strikes to fracture their metacarpals...in fact it's even more RARE for it to be the 4th or 5th

Co-sign.

I've gotten boxers fracture 3 times in my life, twice on my good hand.

I'm only in my early twenties and I already show signs of arthritis in my left hand, It's easier to do then one would think.